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AIBU?

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To think maybe the cyclist was in the wrong...

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PinkSnowAndStars · 08/08/2017 15:27

Someone I know through work posted this video on Facebook of him being cut up by a car. I've watched it... and I actually think the cyclist is in the wrong. The roundabout splits into 3, he's in the very clearly lined left lane, yet wants to go straight over...

Opinions please!! I genuinely watched it thinking the car driver would be in the wrong!

m.youtube.com/watch?v=sAeK45NjF4E&feature=share

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BoomBoomsCousin · 08/08/2017 15:43

It is never OK to cut off another vehicle when exiting a roundabout. Even if the other vehicle is in the wrong lane, changed it's mind etc.

Rule 77 of the Highway Code allows for the possibility of cyclists going all the way around a roundabout in the left hand lane, though it warns to be aware that motorists might not see you.

meatup · 08/08/2017 15:44

Cyclist in wrong lane. Agree normally it's fine to be in the left lane and go straight over but this is clearly indicated as a left turn lane.

mum11970 · 08/08/2017 15:45

Cyclist is in the wrong lane but the car driver should've had more sense and stayed behind the cyclist until he knew exactly where he was going to go. If he'd tried that with a car in the wrong lane rather than a cyclist he would have considerable damage to his car now.

Redsippycup · 08/08/2017 15:49

It's ok for cyclists and horse riders to stay in the left lane and go all the way round the round about. They need to indicate right to show they aren't exiting though which we can't see from the video. They also need to be aware of traffic exiting from their right.

nikiforov · 08/08/2017 16:03

Personally have no time for cyclists on the bloody road. . Hazardous entitled fools. .

They have as much right to be on the road as you.

FindoGask · 08/08/2017 16:04

"Rule 77 of the Highway Code allows for the possibility of cyclists going all the way around a roundabout in the left hand lane, though it warns to be aware that motorists might not see you."

it doesn't just 'allow for the possibility' - it states that this is what cyclists should do, so it may be that the cyclist was doing what he thought was right. I don't go round on the left hand lane - I use the same lane as I would when driving a car, because a) as you say, vehicles joining the roundabout might not see me on the far left and b) vehicles leaving the roundabout cut you up when you're on the far left.

alwaysthepessimist · 08/08/2017 16:04

The cyclist is in the wrong - he is in a left turn only lane yet is going straight ahead! The car needed to get round him otherwise they would have had to go straight ahead and missed their turning.

stillvicarinatutu · 08/08/2017 16:07

does the cyclist know youve put this on MN?

Ceto · 08/08/2017 16:08

The car was clearly indicating. Given that the cyclist was in the wrong lane, he should have waited for the car to go first.

FindoGask · 08/08/2017 16:08

always - the car could have slotted in behind the cyclist - if you watch the video he's going at a fair old clip, probably 30 mph.

BoomBoomsCousin · 08/08/2017 16:13

Findo It says "If you decide to to go round keeping to the left-hand lane..." after first pointing to the main rules on roundabouts for all vehicles, which says to get in lane, and suggesting you might want to walk. I've never read that as meaning that your choice in riding should be to stick to the lef-hand lane, but that if you do decide to that then... Have I been reading it incorrectly all these years (I walk except for the tiniest of roundabouts because they scare the crap out me, but I'm not a great cyclist!)?

BoomBoomsCousin · 08/08/2017 16:17

Ceto when exiting a roundabout you always cede to cars on your left. It's no excuse that they are in the left hand lane. Bloody annoying when it's a car who didn't get into lane properly, but cyclists are allowed to cycle round on the left, so shouldn't even be bloody annoying, just common sense not to endanger a cyclist because you can't be arsed slowing down a bit..

SoPassRemarkable · 08/08/2017 16:28

I'm a cyclist and if going straight on would have moved into the middle lane in plenty of time.

As a cyclist the Highway Code does say you can go straight on in the left lane, or all the way round I think.......but not sure if that counts if the left lane is marked as left turn only. Even if it's allowed it's a silly thing to do and puts yourself at risk as most cars won't realise what you're doing. As a cyclist you must be confident enough to put yourself out there and visible. No point being right if you're dead.

But driver was silly not to hang back but I would say the majority of drivers would do what they did.

trixymalixy · 08/08/2017 16:57

cyclist is wrong.

Allthebestnamesareused · 08/08/2017 16:58

If the cyclist wanted to go straight on he should have been in the middle lane.

Left and middle to go left

middle to go straight on

middle and right to go right.

|On this roundabout there was no option for the left hand land ever to be going straight on.

MaisyPops · 08/08/2017 17:09

Both in the wrong.

Cyclist should have made their intentions clear and moved sooner rather than leaving it so close before moving outwards.

But equally, one it became clear that the Cyclist was in the wrong Lane/had made a mistake/was going round on the left like some have said they can do, as a driver I would back off and not tear past them like that and cut them up. I'd think to myself 'clearly not sure what they're doing. I better give them some space because that's the safer thing to do'.

There are good drivers and bad drivers, good cyclists and bad cyclists. Drivers and cyclists are all capable of ending up in wrong lanes (I know I have as both by mistake). Really people should deal with that and make the safest response, not cut past for the sake of 5 seconds.

khajiit13 · 08/08/2017 17:35

Cyclist is in the wrong lane, his fault.
The car is fine. It's difficult. The car should check his mirrors when coming off the roundabout however.

KidLorneRoll · 08/08/2017 17:37

Cyclist was in the wrong lane. I know the hc has advice about going round roundabouts in the left hand lane, but it's fucking stupid, dangerous advice.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 08/08/2017 17:44

To start with the car effectively blocks the cyclist from going into the correct lane at the roundabout, who assumed (incorrectly) that the car wouldn't be turning left as they weren't indicating (I'm not sure why anyone thinks the car was indicating). It's just impatience when he could easily have stayed behind. He saved naff all time but put the cyclist into a dodgy position. The cyclist though should have hung back just in case, and got into the correct lane.

SpareChangeDownTheSofa · 08/08/2017 17:46

The car was in the straight ahead lane and the cyclist in the left turn lane.

I think the car was in the wrong and can see how the cyclist may have been if they intended to go straight on. However, I think the cyclist did want to turn but was spooked by the car and felt they had to continue straight on to get out of the road IYSWIM? I wouldn't argue strongly either way though.

Ameliablue · 08/08/2017 17:49

The car overtook the cyclist too close to the roundabout, preventing them changing lanes and the highway code allows cyclists to stay to the left.

SummerKelly · 08/08/2017 17:57

I can't see that there is a lane marked for going straight on just for cyclists, although if you knew the junction you might realise to go into the middle lane, though it might not be easy to get across if there was little warning, so presumably that doesn't help, unless there's a sign up before the junction.

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PinkSnowAndStars · 08/08/2017 18:00

No the cyclist doesn't know I've put this on MN But he's uploaded it to YouTube and posted it publically on Facebook. So it's easy enough for people to find if they wanted too.

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Firesuit · 08/08/2017 18:08

The car in the middle lane is allowed to go left, the car driver knows that it is a compulsory left for "vehicle" to the left of him.

Unless the cyclist was giving a hand signal indicating he was going straight, assuming there is such a thing, I don't know how the car driver was supposed to anticipate the cyclists behaviour. (Other than making the general allowances that other people might do anything, including things that break the rules.)

carefreeeee · 08/08/2017 18:09

Car should have indicated.
Car should have given way to traffic on its left
Car should have been aware that cyclists may stay on the left.

Cyclist should have been aware that car may turn left

Personally I would have either got in the right lane, or walked, or waited till the road was clear to go round on the left, depending on how busy it was. I think the cyclist will probably get hit if they carry on cycling like that as they are expecting too much of your average driver! But if the driver had hit the cyclist it would have been their fault. The responsibility is on the car driver to take care of more vulnerable road users (who have just as much right to be there and aren't polluting the environment for everyone else nor causing anyone any danger!)

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