Gobsmacked at the jogger on the news..

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Who pushed that woman over into the path of a bus.

What a complete and utter wanker - who the hell does that?

Thank goodness she was OK (physically at least- she'll probably be rather nervous about walking along the pavement now

Cannot believe the idiotic suggestion that she tried to trip him up.
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I don't agree with that at all AutumnChill - if he'd carried on the path he was in the early frames he wouldn't have run into her.

He quite definitely turns towards her.

I think you can see by her shadow that her leg isn't in the air at that weird angle.

For that leg in the picture to be hers, at such a weird angle, surely you'd see the raised shadow of it.

For her leg to be at that weird angle, she wouldn't be trying to trip him, she'd be doing that crane kick from the end of The Karate Kid.

If anybody really thinks that's her leg raised up like that, where do they think both of his legs are?

And yes, I agree with whoever said the police have released this CCTV to find him for pushing her unprovoked, and not because they think she tried to trip him up.

so he at the last minute takes avoiding action, catches her with his shoulder and she falls.

Crikey. Let's say she did try to trip him up - she didn't - he really shoved her over. IN FRONT OF A BUS. And then? THEN HE CARRIED ON JOGGING!

The fact that people are claiming that maybe she did something to deserve this is quite disturbing. She could have been killed, her head would have gone under that bus if not for luck and fast reactions. The man who did this deserves to go to prison. Obviously he didn't mean to throw her actually under a bus, but he simply didn't care what happened to her. He's one scary individual.

If this guy was your husband/son/friend/colleague/neighbour you'd recognise him.

If this guy was your husband/son/friend/colleague/neighbour you'd recognise him.

MeanAger

What the actual fuck! I must have missed that. Jeeeeezuss.

My opinion for what it's worth is both of them thought the other would relent but they didn't so he at the last minute takes avoiding action, catches her with his shoulder and she falls.

I don't think that was the case Autumnchill, - she stays pretty much on the same path he comes towards her. He was running in the middle of the inner section of pavement - if he'd stayed on course they wouldn't have had any contact.

Also if for some reason you crash into someone accidentally, surely your immediate instinctive reaction is to stop and see if they are OK, help them whatever. Presumably even in the unlikely event it was accidental, he considered his jogging more important than stopping to see if he'd killed someone !

cannot believe the idiotic suggestion that she tried to trip him up.

It does look that way on some versions but try looking at the Met Police one and if you can download it and go thru it frame by frame some software allows you to magnify the image.

Still cannot see why the met have waited since early May before asking for help?. Was there something that came to light that this was/might have been a deliberate assault or murder or whatever?.

Even then why did the jogger come back past her?.

Seems bizarre the whole incident.

Fucking hell! Even if she did try to kick him (doesn't look like she did) it's still not ok for him to try to PUSH HER UNDER A FUCKING BUS!

As to why they didn't release the footage - Wandsworth police are crap.

They failed to catch Kirk Reid - serial rapist - through total lack of effort, and were investigated by IPCC for it. And investigated again by the IPCC when it turned out, after the suicides of 2 prostitutes who had been harassed, that a detective had been sending out fake letters telling people their cases had been closed when they hadn't. Det was fired iirc.

He was a sex crime det btw. And the upshot was from the second inquiry that they were more interested in armed robbers than crimes against women.

JustABoy - the police often wait before releasing CCTV or information.

I have no idea why, perhaps because she wasn't more seriously injured or in further immediate danger after the event, but this isn't the first appeal I've seen which has come a couple of months after the event they want to know about.

Do you have a link for the footage you are talking about?

This reminds me of something that happened to me (not the same man) a few years back not far from here actually.

I'm stood at a busy bus stop, narrow pavement etc. Anyway, my bus came, loads of people went to get on it and rather than block the pathway, I stood at the back, waited for people to get on and then stepped forward.
When I stepped forward, I actually didn't realise that this man, who had been stood at the bus stop, decided he wanted to walk past me (I thought he was stood next to me waiting to get on the bus).
Rather than say 'excuse me please' or push the man stood to my left, he pushed me as hard as he could into the bus stand. He literally put both hands out, pushed me and kissed his teeth at me.

He was a 6" large man. I was a 5"8 late teen/young adult weighing 42kg because I had anorexia. I wasn't hurt thankfully (I had oesteopenia), but I was genuinely really upset by it and spent months going over what I did wrong and why I deserved to be pushed.

I haven't read the thread and only heard about this here, but is the woman ok? (Was she injured?)

Just wow, I cannot say wow enough at this. But whatever anyone else says, and I guess there's a process function between eye and brain that can mean others see this, very quick, image differently in the moment, to me there appears to be nothing untoward in the woman's movement. Yes, she was closer to Jogger than the preceding man, but not that close and did not appear to move any part of her body towards him as far as my eyes are telling my brain. BUT what I do know is that Bus driver deserves a medal, literally, and probably so do the passengers. The massive, but very very quick swerve, from one side to the other, of the bus, to avoid the woman but get back in lane to avoid the traffic is just stunningly skilful. Whoever the driver is, he or she is amazing and the passengers must have been very shocked - for them to have got out and helped the woman immediately afterwards, well all kudos to them too tbh

Actually (insensitive advert before the video starts aside) this footage on the Independent website allowed me to move the play in slow motion and it looks nothing like her trying to kick him or trip him.

It's the best footage I've seen as it allows you to click on the pink line and drag it frame by frame. Her legs don't go anywhere near him.

I don't really understand why, when confronted by male on female violence footage people feel compelled to try minimise - the nonsense about tripping him up and AutumnChill's fictionalised account.

It's as if some people can't compute that this happens and re-write it in terms they can accept.

Yes Hygge try this.

news.met.police.uk/videos/putney-bridge-cctv-30029

Justaboy - thank you.

I think even on your link it's very clear her leg doesn't go near him until after he's pushed her.

I reported it locally, to parkrun national and to the local council... nothing was done at all - not even an acknowledgement. It's made our local park a no-go area on a Saturday morning for us completely - other people have had problems with it - they've basically run everyone locally out of the park to get sole use by sheer force.

Miaow, that's awful. Maybe we should have a MN mass dawdle one Saturday, to remind the arrogant fuckers that parks are for everyone.

May was a long time ago. Why does it occur to the police only now to find that bastard?

Oh what planet does it look like 'she tried to trip him up'. FFS. And even if she did (she didn't) then how is pushing someone in front of a bus and not stopping an appropriate response.

To me that looks 100% deliberate and he should be done for attempted murder.

Probably some sicko who gets his kicks pushing women out of the way in busy places like that. Push. Carry on. Nobody stops you because no one knows what happened. Go and have a good wank.

That footage is the best Justaboy and you can see her legs and his much more clearly- she does not try and kick him, it is the angle that confuses the coat flaps and his leg.