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"we'll, I'd have moved out when I heard that"

58 replies

toconclude · 05/08/2017 01:03

Said by colleague in a very "how could anyone with a moral bone in their body rent from such evil" tone when I mentioned that DS' landlady (non resident) used to ride to hounds (so this would have been pre-2004 law and he has been her tenant for only 5 years so it makes not a jot of difference now).
Bloody ridic or what? Decent rental property is like gold dust where he lives and she is in fact a very good landlady as I was relating (hunting past came up relating to an unrelated story). Who gives a stuff what she did 13 years ago - not that I would do it myself?

OP posts:
sizeofalentil · 05/08/2017 08:28

OP - I wouldn't like it if my landlady has supported fox hunting in the past, but many* landlords have probably done equally as immoral things that you'd never know about. So better the devil you know.

*not all landlords, etc etc

HeteronormativeHaybales · 05/08/2017 08:30

I hadn't heard 'ride to hounds' before, but I think it's pretty clear. I wouldn't say 'ridic' myself but I'm with RhiWrites on this. And Fenella.

therootoftheroot · 05/08/2017 08:32

And this is why I love mumsnet

Daft non problem completely ignored by people arguing over the phrasing used

I have not spat tea over the keyboard but I am sitting here giggling to myself

sharklovers · 05/08/2017 08:36

She's crazy! No issue with it at all. She's aware you can still hunt certain animals with dogs right?

ShatnersBassoon · 05/08/2017 08:36

Oh bloody hell, I know the phrase 'ride to hounds' and I've never been on a horse! It's hardly cryptic even if you haven't heard it Confused.

There's not much to say about the op's problem here, because it's not really a problem.

youarenotkiddingme · 05/08/2017 08:37

I don't use redic myself but reallynwpildnt ignore someone's question because they chose to use it Confused

I guessed what ride to hounds meant. The same way as I have friends from all over the UK and further afield I often have to work out what they mean if they use regional expressions!

As far as moving out - hell no! Why would he? If she's a good LL that is the relationship he has with her.
I'm sure most tenants aren't even aware of the life choices and beliefs of their LL. it's a business relationship not a friendship.

Witsender · 05/08/2017 09:01

Ride to hounds is a proper term, what's the issue with using it?

I wouldn't really care tbh. I have lots of friends who have hunted, and shot and still like them.

limitedperiodonly · 05/08/2017 12:07

Ridic isn't modern slang. It's 20s era and has been revived. I think a character in Vile Bodies says it. She'd have probably ridden to hounds too. And said sups

toconclude · 05/08/2017 13:50

Blimey, the phraseology police have apparently been all over this in my absence. I'm not remotely posh, but used to be a bit horsey and picked the phrase up then (70s) - presumably it was to distinguish between that and other hunting/shooting etc. As for 'ridic" I was just being lazy - that's allowed, no?
Context - daft comparison said landlady made to DS and partner between one sort of being targeted and another... they just shrugged and said something like "huh, older generations, go figure" and laughed it off.

OP posts:
RhiWrites · 05/08/2017 21:50

Thanks, limited! It must be back in.

limitedperiodonly · 05/08/2017 23:05

Glad to be of help RhiWrites. OP's update is a bit baffling

toconclude · 06/08/2017 12:38

How "baffling"? I don't want to give huge amounts of info as identifying and also not that relevant to the original question "is it unreasonable to take this line regarding one's landlord" - which is all I was asking...

This really is a very odd place sometimes, I must say.

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Whisky2014 · 06/08/2017 12:43

I wouldn't want to give money to someone who thought it ok for dogs to rip foxes apart and ensue a gruesome and painful death.

Whisky2014 · 06/08/2017 12:43

And no it doesn't make a difference now but it's the principle.

blankface · 06/08/2017 12:57

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blankface · 06/08/2017 13:01

And to get back on topic. how many renters know anything about their landlord/lady's private lives?
The relationship is a purely business one, live in a property and pay the rent.

OP, go and tell your colleague that the owners her favourite shopping sites hunt, see if she stops buying from them, then extend the range to all her shopping habits [ where's a wicked emoticon when you need one?]

blankface · 06/08/2017 13:02

owners of her favourite

Viviennemary · 06/08/2017 13:07

I don't approve of fox hunting. But it was once legal. Yes I'd rent a flat from such a person if it suited me.

abigcupoffuckyou · 06/08/2017 13:19

I wouldn't give a flying fuck. Who knows what anyones landlord is into anyway? Mine could be a goat sacrificing, crack smoking, transvestite swinger for all I know.

Unicorniformal1ty · 06/08/2017 13:28

Most people we meet and interact with in life will have done things that we disapprove of. Just shove it to the back of your mind (provided it's not truly heinous) and leave it there.

Maryz · 06/08/2017 13:29

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Willow2017 · 06/08/2017 13:44

Wouldnt care about something someone did 13 years ago!

And living in a rural area 'ride to hounds' was pretty much the norm back in the day. People are never so stupid as when they are trying to be smart alecs.

But brb a pack of hounds who are on a scent are a bloody nuscance and often out of control. I had a friends who had them rampage through her garden and freak out her dogs and chickens and wrecked the garden. So yeah if there had been pets around or worse kids out in that village it could have been very unpleasant.

lionsleepstonight · 06/08/2017 13:52

Wouldn't bother me OP.
But then fox hunting didn't bother me either, so I am clearly as 'evil' as your landlady Wink

sonjadog · 06/08/2017 13:59

I can´t imagine writing off anyone for anything they did 13 years ago. Wouldn´t be an issue for me at all.

RiceBurner · 06/08/2017 14:05

I don't understand all the extreme reactions to fox hunting.

I don't kill animals myself (unless by accident) but I do buy eggs, fish and dairy products. I am just getting someone else to do the killing for me.

I also know that even if I stopped eating animal products that I would still be enjoying a privileged lifestyle which depends on the position as humans at the top of the food chain/the dominating force over the nature. (Houses free of pests, drugs for when we are ill, ready supply of vegetarian food etc.)

Killing foxes is horrible (of course) but it is done because they are pests. (Nb Foxes inflict horrible deaths on their prey. All the time.)

Being a meat and/or dairy eater (which is most of us) condemns farm animals to short and often very unhappy/brutal lives. Then someone slaughters them for us. Slaughter conditions are often grim. The animals suffer. But do we care?

Could the whole world become vegan and could we then let all animals live happily ... and never ever kill one again? Ha!

Most ppl agree that rats (very intelligent and lovely animals) somehow deserve to be kicked, burned alive, poisoned etc as they are dirty vermin. (Not me but I think I am in a minority.) I don't like them in the house either, unless they are pets, but I think (like mice) that they should be killed as humanely as possible. It's not their fault we don't like them?

Well foxes are also vermin. So are squirrels and rabbits I think? And perhaps some deer?

So I say to anyone who radically condemns ppl who fox hunt, "can you really say you are any better?" Would you kill a rat in your house?

Isn't extreme opposition to fox hunting just a pet topic with which to feel one can legitimately have a go/hate rich ppl who do it?

I remember as a (small town) child that our class was given "fox hunting" as a topic in English. None of us had seen a hunt apart from on TV. We ALL were horrified by the idea fox being ripped apart by hounds. And we happily condemned it. (Were encouraged to by the teacher?) There was no real debate. It was very one-sided.

Same sort of universal revulsion when we came to the "factory farming" topic. But we were kids and that was a typical child's POV? (At least a child who has never starved or had to hunt/kill their own food.)

In the adult world, rights and wrongs are much harder to separate and most is rather grey rather than black/white. And we should understand that our very (comfortable) existence (in the modern, developed world), condemns a lot of other living things to die for our benefit.

Some living things (like ants/flies/slugs/snakes) we generally do not care about whatsoever. We only get all moral over "nice furry things".

Such an over-reaction. And so hypocritical.

Cos have a think about it - would you rather be a fox, living free and maybe ending up dead from being hunted. Or would you rather be a sow in a cage forced to give birth over and over then die, or be a rat living in a sewer and then being bashed by a shovel, or a day old chick going through a mincer before you have had any life at all?

I know which option I would choose out of those.

Humans are often very cruel to animals but foxes are in turn cruel to other wild animals. And to farm animals. So we need to kill foxes and fox hunting is one way. (And not necessarily worse IMO than being shot or poisoned?)