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AIBU to think I'm being scammed by this builder?

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NamedyChangedy · 31/07/2017 11:57

Slightly time sensitive so posting here for traffic.

We're due to start work on our single-storey extension tomorrow, knocking through to get a bigger open-plan kitchen / diner, and I suspect the builder we've hired might be pulling a fast one.

We hired him as his prices were a bit more reasonable than the other quotes we'd had, and he seemed competent. It turns out that he subcontracts the building work to someone else, and just project manages. Which I'm fine with, in principle. We paid him a 20% deposit. However, he's just called and said we have a problem...

He (PM) paid a large deposit to Builder A to start work tomorrow. Builder A has done a runner gone back to his home country for a month so is now not available, so PM has found another guy who he's worked with before (Builder B) who can do the job for a bit more money. PM says that he is willing to swallow the difference between the two prices so that we only pay the amount on the PM contract, HOWEVER, Builder B needs a deposit of £15K if he's to start work tomorrow. PM can only cover £8K of it, so we'd need to pay the remaining £7K if we want the work to go ahead. The overall amount we agreed with PM would stay as is.

So... do we pay him another £7K on top of the £20K+ deposit we've already paid, which has apparently gone AWOL, and just trust that the rest of the process will go smoothly? We have a small contingency but this is basically our life savings we're talking about here. If someone else told me this story I'd probably have advised them to cut their losses and just ask for their deposit back (although if he's having cash flow problems it doesn't seem like he's in a position to give us that either).

In the meantime, the house is in chaos as we've had to clear everything out ready for demolition tomorrow.

What would you do??

(Also, yes I know it's ridiculous London prices etc etc, that can't really be helped, unfortunately Angry)

OP posts:
Wiifitmama · 01/08/2017 13:07

We have just been through a massive build/rennovation. We absolutely paid a percentage upfront and then staged payments throughout. It was all in our contract. We chose our builder as he employs his staff directly. We had the same guys throughout and we are now in a second project with him and its the same guys coming back to us again. I hated the idea of subcontractors coming in as that is often where problems happen.

VladmirsPoutine · 01/08/2017 13:24

I hope you find a resolution.

Either way I'd go through the contract with a fine toothed comb to find out exactly what the clauses are / aren't.

NamedyChangedy · 01/08/2017 15:24

Thanks so much all, I really appreciated all your comments.

The update is that after much back and forth yesterday evening, we compromised on paying half the amount he requested upfront, and he's adjusted the payment schedule to claw that back after the first two payments. He turned up promptly this morning (along with Builder B and team) and they've made good progress so far. Communication seems good so far as well, as he's now very conscious that we have concerns about trust as a result of all this.

I have receipts for everything, and I'll also make payments on a credit card from now on as it would be good to have the extra protection. I hadn't really thought that through.

Thanks again for all the feedback, it's been such a big support.

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bellsandwhistles89 · 01/08/2017 17:02

I have been scammed before and stupidly paid up front and in instalments, my excuse was I was young and naive and this is unfortunately what they are wanting. Never pay up front, if they ask you to do this then just move on to the next one.

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