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Aibu to think sending naked photographs should be outlawed?

27 replies

Cocklodger · 30/07/2017 12:56

Well, sending unsolicited naked photos anyway. Isn't it akin to physically flashing?
Inspired by another thread,
What are your thoughts?
I think that if you're, quite rightly, not ok with someone getting their penis or vagina out right next to you (as does happen Sad )
then you probably wouldn't be happy to have it happen online either?

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Cocklodger · 30/07/2017 12:57

I hope I've covered this with the unsolicited bit but obviously if you're together/exchanging photos/ask for a photo it's fine and that should be left as it is!

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TheNaze73 · 30/07/2017 12:59

I agree with you entirely. Prooving it would be an altogether different matter but, unsolicited pictures of boobs & dildo's up people are lame and needy, just like cock pics must be for women.

LadyFuchsiaGroan · 30/07/2017 13:00

Yeah I agree, I'm sure it would be an offence to print off a naked picture and send it in the mail to someone! Unsolicited naked pictures sent online should definitely be an offence.

Cocklodger · 30/07/2017 13:03

Quite possibly Lady although I'm not sure if that happens very often.
I'm not sure proving it would be difficult, surely you'd have all the proof you needed if it happened online?

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LadyFuchsiaGroan · 30/07/2017 13:06

I'm not saying it does happen often just saying that if it did it would probably fall under harassment or something so seems strange how considering how prevalent unsolicited pictures online seems to be that it doesn't class as an offence.

Cocklodger · 30/07/2017 13:09

I wasn't disagreeing Smile
Just musing, I've never heard of it happening, yet it is probably illegal, when I don't know any women who've never received one (certainly not women under 40s or on some kind of social media) online....

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13ReasonsWhy · 30/07/2017 13:09

Assuming that it is between 2 adults then it seems pretty minor. Distasteful and not nice but hardly crime of the century.

theporcinegrappler · 30/07/2017 13:13

I think it comes from a similar urge to flashing, it's just that digital communication has lowered the barriers and made it much easier to act on the urge
You don't have to put on a raincoat go stand in a park and wait for a victim, you just pull it out take a pic and send
you're jerking off to porn all day so you've got it out and ready and you're on the net, you almost can't help sending out those dick pics

Cocklodger · 30/07/2017 13:14

Well I never said it was crime of the century, but I don't think that it only effecting one person is reason tbh.
For eg,
Assault may only effect one person but while it's not crime of the century it is taken seriously.
See also, theft.
It doesn't have to be crime of the century for it to be a crime and I'm not sure why flashing is illegal but it's not illegal if you just do it via your laptop or phone. It's bizzare.

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sparechange · 30/07/2017 13:14

A blanket law seems a bit unenforceable, especially once you start putting in caveats about 'being together'
If I slept last night and send him a pic of my boobs today, is that allowed, or does it need a specific declaration of 'we are now a couple' first?
I agree with pp that it is surely already covered under existing harassment laws?

My best mate sent me an unsolicited photo of her boobs a few weeks ago - the day her milk came in when they were looking magnificent! I don't want her to be arrested for it...

SerendipityFelix · 30/07/2017 13:15

DP (copper) thinks that they are illegal and classed as indecent images under the telecommunications act. Also sending a picture of someone else without their knowledge is a separate offence.

Cocklodger · 30/07/2017 13:17

Spare true a blanket law would be hard to enforce but there are many grey areas with lots of laws, so I dunno.
🤷🏻‍♀️ It's a weird subject, it seems people don't take it as seriously as flashing although I definitely think it's close to if not the same thing

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WhatToDoAboutThis2017 · 30/07/2017 13:21

when I don't know any women who've never received one (certainly not women under 40s or on some kind of social media) online....

I've never received one. I'm late twenties, however I've never been on the dating scene. I am on most forms of social media though.

As to the original question, no, I don't think it should be illegal if it's just one dick pic; that's too extreme.

If someone's harassing you by constantly sending you dick pics then that should be illegal, if it isn't already.

Cocklodger · 30/07/2017 13:32

Isn't that like saying
"A 10 second flash is ok but if he follows you around with it out then that's not ok?"

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Joey7t8 · 30/07/2017 13:35

I think it probably is already illegal. I'd imagine the police might do something for constant harassment, but the cost to the taxpayer of prosecuting someone for one single dick pic wouldn't be worthwhile, particularly as it wouldn't always be straightforward to prove that it was unsolicited.

BadLad · 30/07/2017 13:37

What about if you accidentally send it to the wrong person?

I don't send naked pictures to anyone sorry y'all but I frequently send emails to the wrong recipient, so I imagine people who do send naked pics sometimes run into this problem with amusing consequences.

SerendipityFelix · 30/07/2017 13:39

Sorry communications act not telecommunications act

A person is guilty of an offence if he—
(a)sends by means of a public electronic communications network a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or
(b)causes any such message or matter to be so sent.
...
(3)A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable, on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or to both

So, yup, dick pics are illegal.

Freddystarshamster · 30/07/2017 13:41

Serendipity is right. It's already an offence

Cocklodger · 30/07/2017 13:44

Good to know, I consider the thread now irrelevant. Smile

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OlennasWimple · 30/07/2017 13:45

As with so many crimes, it's the enforcement that is the problem. No police officer is going to take forward a complaint of receiving one dick picture, only if it is persistent and starts to get into harassment territory.

Freddystarshamster · 30/07/2017 13:47

wrong

EezerGoode · 30/07/2017 13:54

I've never had one sent to me..I feel quite left out

RortyCrankle · 30/07/2017 13:56

Totally vile and thankfully I'm too old to ever receive one. What the fuck are they thinking?

Cocklodger · 30/07/2017 14:00

Olennas, if it is indeed a crime as stated upthread I find it hard to believe an officer would ignore it.

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MissWilmottsGhost · 30/07/2017 14:02

I have never been sent an unsolicited dick pic, but I think if I did I would consider it very much 'flashing' and report it to the police.

Normal men do not do this.

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