Benefit bashing

[LovelyBath77]

To think MN can be a bit benefit bashing at times. Even if people are rightfully claiming / ill / poor etc.

Recently, I have seen someone having a hard time although ill and having a baby and considering claiming tax credits. I also have had a hard time although illness (both me and DP) and low wage means claiming some tax credits.

I can understand the rage for those fraudulently claiming benefits or the like but why for those legitimately claiming? or AIBU?

People on here will make every excuse under the sun for benefit fraudsters.

There's a pretty big difference between benefit fraud, and choosing to claim benefits you're entitled to but which others think you're wrong to claim.

I don't actually agree Zippy sometimes I think those on mumsnet who are far removed from the benefit system can't see who those that earn just over the thresh hold might be a bit pissed off with others claiming fraudently because say am exyra £60 quid a week means nothing to them but makes a hell of difference to others.

I see no benefit bashing going on. I see a desire for people who can work to work, but when people are genuinely in need they are encouraged.

Maybe you could back up your post by positing links to all these threads bashing people?

I am trying to get our useless MP to take on the case of a bedbound woman who can't claim PIP because she can't get to her assessment. That's because she is bedbound

But others appear to be entitled to more but have less need.

Baffles me.

I can;t be arsed to find the links to be honest, one is on here atm.

If me and the other posted had posted about claiming PIP, not tax credits, it would have been totally different. Even though tax credits has disability elements in it.

Ha ha baileys yes times 2 boys

Anon

Very well said

You will always be Ex Two to me, x2

baileys

Exactly Anon, it isn;t about benefit fraud.

I wonder if it's because PIP isn't means tested, but the others are. Not sure.

@baileysicecream, I am bedridden. I had to get my GP to write a letter confirming I needed a home assessment for PIP.

X2boys. That is understandable but then we used to be able to claim more until the tories cut wtc. I ended up losing out but, thankfully, dh had recovered and got a job shortly after

I know the thread and there was some pretty disgusting comments on there suggesting poor people shouldn't have children. If the government says someone is entitled to tax credits then damn right they should claim them. The woman in question would be losing money by working and putting her child in childcare. I wouldn't work in her situation either.

It's just not been happening, Nightshirt

It baffles me. I won't put details up as it isn't fair. But it is beyond infuriating. I think they expect her to live on fresh air

Sorry to hear that @bailey. Believe you, PIP process can be a nightmare :(

Have contacted the local paper - hoping they will do some MP shaming

It's the whole 'deserving vs undeserving' poor thing. but I think moajority of people realise that there are times in anybody's life when they will need help such as when they have little children etc.

Great idea. Sorry typing is making me feel very ill and I must stop and rest. Good luck!

Some people work hard and good things don't come to them. I bet they work a lot harder than some of the benefit bashers on MN.

It's just there is lots of empathy for those on PIP but such rude comments on other stuff. It was said yes my husband should do anything to get us off tax credits despite him having immunotherapy and string cancer drugs for his IBD which would have made him so ill, he doesn't claim PIP or ESA though but for some reason because it was tax credits it seemed to be different and we should be off them ASAP.

Maybe some of the people commenting don't realise the reality of the situation, and that they don't just give stuff willy nilly but do check if you are entitled to it first? I don't know, it's just really weird.

The problem is people work really hard for there money only to see it go on someone else's children and sometimes on other people's phone, telly, branded food, branded clothes etc..

There you go, typical benefit bashing post.

People on benefits dont deserve heinz beans you know. They should have factory floor scrapings and be grateful for it.

I can;t be arsed to find the links to be honest, one is on here atm

Well I'm on here all the time and I haven't seen it, so I'm not sure of the point of starting a thread accusing mumsnet of something if you can't be arsed backing it up?

Just imagining a post about PIP and the disabled person being told

"You carried a baby you can't be that ill"
or
"the illness is a convenient excuse"

Yes chasing, that kind of post is the kind of thing, maybe some kind of rage at unfairness, that the other person is getting something they are not?

Ok I'll try and find them.