To not want to make pancakes straight away?

[PancakesAteTheChildren]

friday nights I generally work until 12 ish, then can't go to sleep straight away so generally sleep around 1am. Saturday is my only lie in day (by lie in I mean 8ish, not late!) ATM while DH isn't playing golf as I also work Saturday night until 12ish then am back in for 8am.

The problem is, once I am up, and before I have even had coffee, the children are nagging me to make pancakes.

But I don't want to straight away! It is the only wind downtime I have so want to drink coffee wake up for a bit rather than heading straight into the kitchen (which is generally a mess form the night before as I am at work!) have to clean all that up then cook. (For context, in term time I am up before everyone during the week, despite the late nights and do cook them pancakes or porridge or bacon/eggs. Dh also usually plays golf so can't sleep in Saturday's. )

I offered to do themfor lunch instead but Dd is now throwing a tantrum! Sigh.

Poverty she's right though, ASD or not they still have to be told no and if that means they throw a strop then let them, what can you do?

My brother has ADHD and ODD my mum was told to be a bit more firm with him as it will take more for him to understand. I've always heard that some children with extra needs such as these do need to be told a bit more firmly so that they realise they can't demand and et what they want when they want.

I've only read you op so apologies if this has been suggested. I have SN dc although high functioning doesn't like change to routine but after a while gets used to the new routine. Could you leave them something ready prepared for breakfast in the fridge, plated up like a picnic for them to eat when they wake and Saturday pancakes become the norm for lunch.
Mine know that school days meals are at x time but weekends and holidays meals are at x time. It's generally fine except if meals are delayed or missed unexpectedly.

My slow typing lol. Someone suggested the same a minute ago, great minds maryz

Maryz what do you suggest then?

You tell a child no and they throw a strip, you try to reason and explain but they continue. Please, tell me what you would do?

Quack op hasn't given in an made the pancakes she's just looking for advice for next Saturday to prevent a strop, that's what SN parents do.

Did I say she had?

I would give them a small bowl of cereal and tell them you will make the pancakes when you had your coffee. Then make a double patch and freeze half for next weekend.

Would the one with autism be able to cope with that system?

I have a special needs child, possible autism and an older child who is showing signs of both ADHD and ODD.

No need for the (assuming) snarky tone.

Ok fair enough, but I'm on about at this moment in time when the op was saying no and the child threw a strop, obviously you try to reason and or calm them down but if it doesn't work you have to just leave them too it (providing they are safe) so none of what I said was wrong, not sure why the need to have a go.

And I didn't say you didn't have a SN child and you read the snarky tone into my post because you wanted to see a snarky tone.

Ask your DH to make the pancake mix with the eldest. Then let the eldest make the pancakes for the younger children.

OP you sound like a lovely and very hardworking family!

It's funny how these traditions creep up isn't it? DS was so stressed the other day because we didn't have crisps for Sat lunch. It's got nothing to do with getting his own way or lack of discipline, he doesn't even especially like crisps, he was utterly freaked out by a change in routine we hadn't even realised was a routine.

I have three adult children and each have 'different' needs. I don't treat them all the same because their comprehension levels are different. So saying let her strop suggests that all children react in the same way and all children with special needs should be parented in the same way. It doesn't work like that and simply because I have tree withSN doesn't mean I should tell another parent, who seems pretty fucking amazing in my opinion, should let their child strop because you think that's the way to parent.

Lol Cocacolaaddict careful, the food police will be after you next. 😄

I didn't say it would do her good, I just mean that if she is going to have a strop and you can't stop it what exactly are you meant to do? Because apparently it's wrong to let her continue if you can't stop it.

Good idea. Put out another breakfast for them to eat - yogurt or what ever. Then give an exact time you'll make the pancakes - with a timer/alarm set

You said thats what SN parents do how was I meant to take that? If you let me know how then maybe I can see it in a different way.

I feel your pain OP. My youngest has ASD and pancakes is one of the few foods he will eat regularly. He asks for them a lot. I get thoroughly fed up with the monotony of making them!! I have found a few shortcuts though. I usually make 2 batches of batter at once, and cook it all so that I can keep the pancakes in the fridge for a couple of days and just heat them up in the frying pan (you don't need any oil so it's easy and not messy) as required - you could probably do it in a microwave too. Or if you buy a batter jug with a lid you can keep the batter in the fridge for a day or 2 at the most. Also depending on the way you make them, you can mix the dry ingredients together and keep in a jar so all you need to do is add the milk and eggs (at least you'll have done the weighing and assembling of 2 thirds of the ingredients!). Nigella has a homemade pancake mix recipe that I use sometimes.

Dh - works full time, also runs a business at home (sorry!) after the kids are asleep and has a big project on ATM. Very supportive, and fully acknowledges he couldn't do what he does without my support. Getting home early so I can go to work means 6pm, we literally pass at the doorway. Plays golf Saturday's except ATM due to said project. Is very good about taking days off if I am ill with migraines or other health issues I have had. He is a good man, we just have different tidy standards. He also cooks Sunday's night for when I get home and Saturday nights when I work.

OP, you are missing the point. Your DH is a MAN and therefore in the eyes of Mumsnet is automatically a lazy uncaring bastard who can do no right. 😁

BTW I know they are pricey but how about getting the ready made crepes from Waitrose - they are very tasty.