Sobbing since 6am because humans are horrible

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Okay I'm probably BU but I decided to listen to Space Doggity again and started reading stuff about Laika and I'm just HORRENDOUSLY angry at the people who did this to her and how scared she must have been and how alone she must have been when she died :(

I have 0 maternal instinct for babies but all I want to do is cuddle that poor dog who died terrified and alone in space.

I'm gonna do some tribute art but I'm just so sad and I don't really know WHY this has hit me so hard.

Don't get the crying about Charley. Poor poor little boy and parents though.

I get where you're coming from OP. Ignore all the "so what?" comments. A tendency to depression does often change our thinking patterns and bring sad and negative thoughts to mind. It doesn't matter if they are from recent events, real or imagined, or whether you can change anything. It isn't the same feeling at all as when you're coming from a strong, logical starting point. In your current frame of mind, to snap out of it and say "OK, can't change that, now I'm going to phone X charity and volunteer" is much easier said than done. If you find you are getting stuck on particular negative thoughts then yes, the GP can certainly help. It isn't your fault.

Squishy - apples and oranges.

Look, of course everyone has the right to get upset about anything and everything.

There is no list of worthy causes.

I cry at the most random things. Crying about bad stuff happening to others re-assures us about our capacity to feel for others and that we're not selfish.

OP has asked if she is being unreasonable. She is not unreasonable to feel what she feels. But I do think posts like these are a bit self-serving. It is just my opinion.

What makes me cry is the use of the horrifically outdated and highly offensive terms First World and Third World, it's horrible. I HATE the term FIRST world problems. I live in a developing country, people here as much right as anyone to cry over the tragic loss of life or the fact that their phone dropped in the toilet! BUT for heavens sake stop calling other countries as THIRD world and yourself as FIRST world, it's rude!

linoleum strictly speaking, you shouldn't use 'developing countries' either! The World Bank have phased out 'developed' and 'developing'.

*Ahickifromkinicki: If one of your friends in real life is upset about something - (maybe splitting up with a partner, for eg)) do you tell them to "cheer up and think about Hiroshima"? Does it work?

randomer why? If you want to discuss it go find a charlie thread.

Just because I happened to be in those countries doesn't give me a greater capacity for insight or compassion then anyone else.

Aye, you're no fucking kidding.

I don't want to discuss it. A previous post had mentioned it.

OP I could get very upset over how horrible humans can be, you are not alone. I have to have a bit of a cry and then remind myself of how wonderful they can be too. It is hard, life is hard. There is no top trumps in it though, anything can make you sad.

Maybe the dog liked floating about and just fell asleep whilst doing spinny things x

Maybe the dog liked floating about and just fell asleep whilst doing spinny things x

Ahickifromkinick there's a big difference between a term that is not considered clear enough to classify individual countries precisely enough when you are in a economic setting like the World Bank and not using a term because it makes you sound condescending and rude.

Just because I happened to be in those countries doesn't give me a greater capacity for insight or compassion then anyone else.

Aye, you're no fucking kidding.

Repeating what I said is not particularly fucking clever. Sorry I didn't oblige you by claiming to be compassionate

linoliuem get off your high horse, you know nothing about me.

Pointing out that a term is condescending is no more a high horse than pointing out sexism or racism. I don't have to know anything about you to know that the term you used is rude and condescending. Firstly it patronises the person with the problem by suggesting they are selfish and less morally advanced because they don't care about war, poverty and starvation. Secondly it dehumanises and second class categorises the rest of world as "others" by suggesting that they can only be defined by war, poverty and starvation.
It's a pair of horrible and outdated terms, if that's not who you are or what you wish to portray then I would ditch the terms from your vocabulary.

Surprised this is still going on!

I'm 23, going back to uni after a year out due to illness.

I'm a bit confused at people assuming I have no capacity for other sad things going on in the world. I've done a lot of reading/watching around past events to get a better understanding of what happened (because I don't know how old the general age is here, but Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a one line brush off in history class, same with Chernobyl - so I went and did my own research, same with other parts of the world wars) but today I happened to get sad about a dog after 20 hours of being awake.

I mean, I apologise if anybody is sincerely offended by my lack of empathy to other things going on right now, but not posting about them on MN doesn't mean I have no emotions about them?

Age comment was because I wasn't sure how much they were covered in schools for previous generations, but I never heard much about them, sorry! I'm still a bit dazey.

Laika's story is sad but as others have said, the Soviet scientists were remorseful and they have said publicly (once they were allowed to speak about the space programme) that the mission did not justify the death of the dog.

Many of the space dogs were loved by their trainers and once they came home from their missions were often adopted and went on to have puppies and live happy lives. I don't know if that helps? One of Belka and Strelka's puppies went to the USA and was presented to President Kennedy.

PS I had a bit of a weep at a cartoon of the Mars Rover asking if it could come home now as it had been a good robot. I find stories about things/animals/people being abandoned affect me very deeply.

Op ignore the sarcy posts.
Different things upset different people.
I feel empathy for horrible things going on in the world, but i don't get upset about them, show me something about animal abuse and i can be in tears!
IamalsoSpartacus i never knew that about the trainees.
I wonder how the one who trained the dog felt it was sent to space and was never coming back?

Thank you for your posts, LinoleumBlownapart

Mumsnet really has gone to the dogs.

Are you trying to illustrate your own point?