To want to find out what school this is?

[fosterdoris]

I know it's the last day of term and I know they work really hard and it must be a massively stressful job that I would never have the resilience to do in a million years
BUT
A group of teachers are sitting at the table next to me in pub garden - clearly had a good few and loudly slagging off discussing colleagues and end of term presents in a really judge pants really not very nice way.
Is it U to think that type of conversation / behaviour should be a little bit more private and not loudly in a pub garden before 5pm where there are lots of children present?

Go be a teacher for a year and you might be a little more sympathetic

Everyone lets of steam about work all the time obviously and absolutely ridiculous gut that they do. I just thought it was a bit unprofessional for teachers - who seemed to be obviously local from their conversations - to have that discussion loudly in front of other people who could easily have been parents and children from their school - I guess I just have unreasonably high expectations of what is respectful and reasonable

**right that they do - not ridiculous gut - ffs

Yes, tell us what they said!

So on top of all the other crap that teachers put up with, they now aren't allowed to have a whinge about work in the pub. Jeez. It's actually a wonder there are any teachers left in the profession at all. Will the last teacher to quit please turn out the lights...

So you're basically saying that anyone can slag off their job but teachers can't. Yeah ok. Leave them alone. If they want to risk being overheard then that's their call. Let them enjoy their wind down in peace fgs.

"Jeez. It's actually a wonder there are any teachers left in the profession at all. Will the last teacher to quit please turn out the lights..."

Don't worry. Prime Minister Gove will sort that.

Jeeeeeeeeeeez give them a fucking break!

If it was a bunch of (for example) builders in a pub moaning about a colleague or the state of a house they'd just been working on nobody would care.

Teachers are expected to act like saints!

But why do you want to find out the name of the school?

There were a lot of very personal comments about colleagues - including comparisons about end of term gifts and why they had received these on he basis of their teaching ability. Interspersed with a lot of F's and C's .... in a kids play area of the pub garden

Have a . My very first one in 3 years of being on MN!
Get a fucking life honestly.

Sounds like letting of steam in a rather inappropriate way and context. F's and C's in a child friendly location.

YABU... mind your own business.

Ahh being a teacher - where you're a teacher every single day and even when you're not at work...

This is why no one wants to stay in the bloody job. Why do you want to know the school if you don't want to report it??

Unless they were openly naming loudly and incessantly slagging them off what's the problem! Comparing end of term gifts - what's the problem! Good lord.

They weren't doing it in their classroom they were in the bloody pub.

half their luck!!

I've still got two more school days left before I get to sit in the pub, with a pint, slagging other people off!

Were you drinking?

If they are slagging each other off and getting pissed YABVU.

If they are discussing parents and children they are twats and should suck it up if someone hears them and reports.

But it sounds as if they are bitching about colleagues and that is not your business. Makes no difference that they are teachers.

I work in IT support and we have all been known to bitch to colleagues about other colleagues getting thank you presents for a job well done when they haven't infact done very much .. they have just been lucky and got a grateful user.. Seems like teachers were doing the same sort of thing.

As for it being a kids playground in a pub any pub garden I've been in the drinking part is complete separate to the playground so the kids wouldn't be aware and any way you don't take your kids to the pub expecting it to be completely child friendly.
Yes it has a playground and probably crayons at the table.. but at the end of the day adults go the pub to drink alcohol and that doesn't always end in good decisions. If you take your child to this environment you risk them seeing and hearing stuff they wouldn't hear other places.

so no I don't think they were being unreasonable

Ok - why are teachers any less allowed to slag off their colleagues than any other profession? And are they not allowed to swear in public either?! Wtf has the appropriateness/inappropriateness of someone's language in a pub got to do with what job they do?

Teachers are normal people. They have just as much right to behave like normal people in their own non-work time as anyone else. Do you not understand that? Teaching as a career is not exactly appealing to many people at the moment . Expecting teachers to put their teacher persona on 24 hours a day is really not going to improve matters. It's effort enough to stop yourself from swearing in the fucking classroom at times, never mind in the pub.

Seriously though, could you explain OP why a teacher slagging off a colleague in the pub is any worse than a shop assistant/librarian/hairdresser etc doing so?