To want a double pram

[mumwhatnothing]

I am expecting a baby in December. My DD will be 2 years 8months when the new baby will be born. I think I will need a double pram and want the Uppababy Vista but DH is adamant we won't need a double pram. I think he has no bloody clue just how much a 2 year old will need to sit or nap or be strapped in when going around town. This will be the closest in age our children are. We have 19 year old DS, 7 year old DD and 2 year old DD.

I want and think we will need a double pram. Is he being an unrealistic tight arse?

The uppababy vista is a fab pram, so yanbu to want one.

But I doubt you'll get much use from a double pram. We had a 20 month gap & once dd turned 2 the double was hardly ever used - she tended to go on the buggy board.

I had 20 months between mine and bought a bugaboo donkey. Used it 3 times (DD1 decided at 20 months that she no longer wanted to use a pushchair). Most expensive mistake I've ever made!
You might need one, but I recommend you wait until much nearer the time. Your DD1 might not be using a pushchair at all by December.
DD2 is now just 2 and hasn't been in a pushchair since she was 15 months!

My eldest is 2 yrs 7 months and we still use the double every day, I'm expecting to use it for another 6 months at least.

He needs to nap, needs a rest, needs to sit down while eating a snack, needs to be strapped in when it's a busy area and it's the best way to keep him safe.

Buy something secondhand, take decent care of it, and you'll prob sell it on for the same when it's not needed anymore.

I needed mine with a similar gap especially walking quite a bit. I got a second hand Phil and Ted though for about £100. Is it the cost??

We had a 2.8 gap as well. Buggy and sling and buggy board was more than enough

I wish I had one tbh but it would've taken too much room in the house and the boot of the car so instead I have a baby and a toddler carrier and a pushchair and swop them over depending on what we're doing and if DS2 needs milk or not! There's 2yrs 3months between them

It very much depends on the child and how much walking you do.

If they need to nap a lot and you don't have a car then a double probably makes sense.

If you have a ball of energy and drive to most places then less need and a buggy board would probably do.

Could you look for a second hand double to save paying out too much?

I'm in a similar dilemma. My ds will be exactly 2.5 when baby is born, I'm just not sure what to do

I think it's worth waiting until just before the baby is born before making a decision.

It all depends on how much walking you do, you can't compare to other people.

I found one invaluable for a 27 month gap which I used for over a year but we walked for miles.

Yes, get a double. So much easier to have them both in one place. It means both dc's can nap and you're hands free.

Nope. DD was born in Feb (now 5 months) and DS was 2.5 when she was born. We decided to just see how we got on without one but 3 weeks later bought one! DS still naps and will do so in the buggy so for that alone it's been great. It can be hard to get him down to nap at home when DD is playing up so they both get chucked in the buggy and we go off for a walk for sleep. Also managing DS on foot is a challenge!
I found the UB as a double very heavy though (tried a friends) and bought a Mountain Buggy Duet which is amazing. If you do a lot of walking it is great.

If you can afford it get it, other options are second hand etc. I used a double pram loads with my two (20 months apart). I had a second hand pram and a cheapo stroller.

Sometimes the toddler could walk but it was easier to have them both strapped in! I could get them to eat lunch while strapped in and I had the opportunity to be outside which was good for my mental health

How much is your oldest expected to weigh when the baby is born? Max weight for uppababy is 15kg.
Silver cross and I candy go up to 25kg

My ds is 2 1/2 and weighs just over 15kg (but he's not a heifer)

It depends a lot on your lifestyle- not least how much you drive to places- but I don't think you're U.

I walk a fair bit as I don't drive, and there's no way any of mine would have managed a whole day on their feet at that age.

My 3.5 year old still like a nap in the buggy sometimes at her age.

For me it wasn't just about the walking - it was about the peace of mind in towns and cities knowing they were both strapped in and I could switch off a bit mentally! I got a cheap second hand umbrella fold which could be used from birth and just used it when we were in busy areas. It wasn't used much but I was really pleased I had it!

I have an uppababy vista, it is the best thing i ever bought. I did need it as a double as there was 14 months between my 2. They are now 2 yeats 9 months and 19 months. I still use it as a double when on my own, mainly because ds1 is a bolter and we live in the centre of the city and theres many busy roads. He does like to walk at every opportunity though and i doubt i will need it much longer.

Could you buy it as a single and then IF you do need the double buy the extra seat and the adapters?

Just to point out that just because we don't use a pushchair it doesn't mean we drive everywhere . DH uses the car for work so walk the pre school run (1.5 miles each way, twice a day, three days a week), and basically everything else we do is on foot.
Largely irrelevant I know, but everything I mention my DC haven't used a pushchair since way before they were 2 people start making comments about sedentary lifestyles and car usage.

I had 2y9m between DC1 and DC2 and didn't need a double.

I had 2y7m between DC2 and DC3 and used the double for over a year, chiefly because we had to get DC1 to school on time (etc) so DC2 would have been walking miles and miles each day.

On the weight issue mentioned by a PP: the uppababy is approved up to 15kg in each seat because that's what they test for in the U.K. In the USA they test to higher weights, and the exact same models are approved to 25kg. So don't worry too much about that.

I don't find the vista very practical though - too long - and prefer the mountain buggy duet but obv test them out and see which you get on with.

Just to point out that just because we don't use a pushchair it doesn't mean we drive everywhere wink

I mentioned it to avoid the smug comments about how much more advanced some children are...

Depends on whether you drive, if you don't and have to walk everywhere you probably do.
New baby can be comfy in a sling for months and then you have a 3 year old who should be confidently walking perhaps with a seat on your pram?

I don't think they're 'advanced' at all. Neither walked until over a year old. Just stubborn and hated the pushchair.

To add: a 2.7yo can be capable of walking a long way, but when the timing is critical - eg DD(7) school run - a double pram is easier than buggy board etc.

Definitely second hand. I liked my P&T because it also behaves like a good single when needed.