to wonder why people moan but are unwilling to do something about it.

[wonderingwhy2]

Travelers have once again set up camp on a prominent (illegal) spot in my town.
Once again the locals are moaning about it.
Once again, I wonder why, instead of moaning, they don't take their caravans and camper vans and tents and camp alongside the travellers?

The police wouldn't be able to fine the locals, because they can't have one rule for one and one rule for others. Right?

It's a big area. There would be plenty of room.

and AIBU is all about moaning. so I don't get your point.

Uh?

I think you need to put the glue down, OP

Nice try to get a rise Trip.
Not working.

try another thread?

Did you start this thread just to have a moan about travellers, OP?

Cos that's called being a goady fucker

You seem more concerned that they can camp for free and you can't, despite the fact you've admitted you nave neither a tent nor a caravan

Car parking fees are extortionist for this area, even out of peak season and if you are over by even 5 minutes, you get a fine (which happened to me)
The tent/caravan was purely an example.

extortionate? bloody expensive

Did you start this thread just to have a moan about travellers, OP?
Cos that's called being a goady fucker

I don't go on threads at night for the sole purpose of calling posters goady fuckers.
That's being a sad fucker.

Then buy a caravan, travel around the country so you have no fixed address and you'll no longer have to pay the parking fees.

You obviously have nothing against damaging land and costing skint local councils £1000s as you'd like to see locals doing the same thing.

So be the change you want to see, instead of expecting other locals to do it instead.

Buy a tent and follow them in your car.

I'll give you a loan of my tent if you pitch it beside them and promise to come back and update us, you can even keep the tent once your done

Ok cabbage, thanks! do you have a van instead? I much prefer a comfy van.

Worral,
I wouldn't damage the land and I would take my rubbish home with me.

Damn it no, but it's a six man with two rooms, I'll throw in a blow up bed, you can't say fairer than that

OP you in surrey by any chance?

Wondering if you live near me OP.

sobey no.

Devon

Just wondered cause my dad they have had 20 caravans turn up with more following

*near my dad

I get you being pissed off with the travellers rocking up parking on cricket pitches and playing fields usually in a bank holiday. Churning up the pitch. Leaving skip loads of shite including actual human waste. They usually have really nice caravans and top of the range SUV's think Range Rovers at £60k a pop being run on red diesel. I don't get that your only objection to it is you can't park for free.

I'm in Devon. 'Our' travellers park up in a large car park; it's inconvenient but they use the public loos and seem to use rubbish bags an' everything. What I don't understand about them is why don't they park on the nearby playing field, which has no facilities, and make a mess like they do everywhere else? I feel cheated!

I sympathise OP but you haven't half gone round the houses about this. Just say it annoys you and you're having a moan!

Jux That's really encouraging. May I ask, what is the reaction of the local community? Do they see the travellers as a problem anyway or are people pretty accepting as there's no antisocial behaviour to piss them off?

Some (like dh! ) will complain that they're thieves and we should make sure we lock up our houses blah blahetc etc, but actualy there's very little trouble, and the only time we've had anything stolen it was done by a 'friend' of sil and totally unrelated. I don't know everyone who lives here, small town, 9K+ population, but not heard much complaints. They don't stay long.

They're actual gypsies, not hippy travellers.

Our community has been successful against travellers recently. We haven't had the long standing issues that other parts of town have had, but the area has now fallen on their radar.

They turned up on council land A around Easter, stayed until the bailiffs were imminent and left a load of excrement and household/ garden waste in the copses.

At Whitsun, another group turned up on council land B. Told the local press they rather liked the area particularly as they were close to a leisure centre with cheap access to showers. Again waited until the bailiffs were due, left the usual crap and lots of rutted up land... shuffled off a few hundred yards to council land A to start the costly process again.

Cheesed off residents got together, assembled an online network and when the bailiffs were due again, the residents within sight of where the travellers were pitched activated the network, and human and car blockades were set up to successfully thwart the travellers shuffling back to council land B as they'd been promising. They eventually took themselves to a neighbouring suburb's park. If they had re-colonised land B. the legal timescales that the travellers play to would have meant the cancellation of the neighbourhood fete as they would have been obstructing and contaminating the land that it's held on. I suspect the timing of the fete helped to get the council to get its finger out to dig trenches/ mounds to make it more awkward to pitch up again.

It's frustrating watching money being squandered on the legal games in a neighbourhood where the council community budget is £0. The area is otherwise well kept and very rarely encounters antisocial behaviour. If the travellers kept the peace, and moved on quickly avoiding costly environmental damage there would be a lot less antipathy towards them.

Jux They're actual gypsies, not hippy travellers.

Now I'm intrigued... was there something in my post that made you think I might be talking about hippy travellers? Are they more known for causing trouble? The few I've met seem to be very into nature and wouldn't trash land or anything. Also, I thought there were very few of them in the UK...