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To be furious for being called out for menstruating at work?

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Snuffalo · 11/07/2017 15:04

Having horrible menstrual cramps, naproxen isn’t touching it, and I remember I have a hot water bottle in my desk drawer - I used it all winter in my freezing office, and a few other people, male and female, have one as well - we have a rule against personal space heaters so it can be nice to have under your desk next to your feet.

Anyway. I fill the hot water bottle, nestle it in my lap, and I’m back to work. My sort-of-supervisor* we’ll call Guy comes over to talk to me about something, notices the hot water bottle, says “there’s no way you’re cold today, are you?” I say “um, no, just for the pain relief”. He looks confused and then literally horrified and then he walks away.

Less than ten minutes later, I get a Slack message from one of the HR admins (HR is based in another office a few hours away) to say “Guy says you’re not well and should go home, everything OK?”

I say “I’m fine, this is sort of weird, he just looked a bit shocked that I had a hot water bottle, I’ve got cramps, you know how it is.”

She goes silent and then offline completely, ten more minutes later, the HR Director calls me and asks me if I can find a meeting room, which I do. She then tells me that I shouldn’t disclose my medical problems to anyone who isn’t part of HR as it can make them uncomfortable. I’m literally shocked, I explain exactly what happened, she says “yes I understand, if you’re so unwell you need a hot water bottle you should be home, Guy is extremely uncomfortable and it’s unprofessional”. I say “this is weird, ok, anything else”? She’s quite breezy and professional - “No, that’s all, if you’re feeling better that’s great but if you need to, please do go home, OK bye!"

I’m just completely flabbergasted. Especially considering that Guy has been known to take meetings with clients whilst laying flat on the floor on his back because of back problems - which seems to me both unprofessional and likely to make people uncomfortable, not that I really cared personally. I wouldn’t have had my hot water bottle in a client meeting or even if clients were in the office.

Other people have standing desks, weird foot rests, all kinds of chairs and special backrests for their back pain and wrist braces for their wrist pain and a hundred other things and I’m not allowed to have a hot water bottle for my menstrual cramps? Am I right to be completely fucking furious?

*I normally have no problem with Guy, we don’t work closely, no one else does what I do at work but he comes closest and he does my nominal (and always positive) performance reviews and signs off on my holiday.

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slug · 11/07/2017 16:52

Sorry Rub I should have read the whole thread. Mea culpa

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Neutrogena · 11/07/2017 16:52

Muskey , if your boss had said 'What kind of lady problem?' what would you say?
Your boss has a right to know doesn't he?

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sashh · 11/07/2017 16:53

Well HR obviously need to authorise you to have 7 days a month off on full pay. Under the DDA you are entitled ...

except this is not a disability is it?

I'd sleep on it, but tonight I would be drafting notes to HR (that I may or may not send) to ask them what the policy is on menstruating at work.

Are you allowed? Will they provide a room for you away from persons with dicks (or who are dicks) Are you allowed to take pain relief?

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PurpleDragon76 · 11/07/2017 16:53

I think Guy was a twat but HR were twattier. They could have just said to the bloke 'yes heat can help with period pain, I am sure she will speak to us if she feels she needs to go home". But they made it awkward and a big deal and like you were in the wrong. I woukd aak exactly what Guy said you said, something has gone weirdly awry.

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RoboticSealpup · 11/07/2017 16:53

This is insanity. You should complain.

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TieGrr · 11/07/2017 16:58

Confused at all the 'he couldn't ignore OP in pain comments' here. Surely he knows OP is a grown up and more than capable of arranging to go home if she really needs to. Going to HR over it is baffling.

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Theonlytime · 11/07/2017 17:02

I'm slightly confused as from my reading of your post you didn't disclose any medical info, and more to the point isn't it up to you if you want to share info or not???

I think Guy is getting a bit of a undeserved slating here, he saw a colleague in pain and wanted to help.

To me it's HR who fucked up.

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BeyondDrinksAndKnowsThings · 11/07/2017 17:04

I know people are saying that guy did the right thing in telling HR, but if he's your direct reporting manager, surely there was no need? He is the one who could authorise you going home if needed, nothing to do with HR.

HRs reaction is beyond words Shock

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MaryMcCarthy · 11/07/2017 17:05

This is absolutely out of order. You need to formally complain otherwise they'll end up treating other women like this.

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Muskey · 11/07/2017 17:07

I would have told him nutrogena. I think if I got that far I think he would still be running now. Men can be pathetic at times

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diddl · 11/07/2017 17:07

He wanted you to go home because he was afraid he might catch it.

How ridiculous they all sound.

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Gramgram · 11/07/2017 17:10

You couldn't make this stuff up. We're in the 21st century, Guy needs to get a grip. Your HR sound nuts, they'll be declaring you are a witch next and have you on a ducking stool.

Do whatever makes you feel better and take care.

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TenForward82 · 11/07/2017 17:10

OP is an adult, it's up to HER if she wants to go home sick. Guy didn't need to tell HR anything. Twat.

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SonicBoomBoom · 11/07/2017 17:11

So out of order. Can't believe HR have reacted so incompetently

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shouldwestayorshouldwego · 11/07/2017 17:12

A good reason to make sex and relationships education compulsory for everyone.

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shouldwestayorshouldwego · 11/07/2017 17:13

I meant every child, but yeah maybe he needs a refresher course.

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coddiwomple · 11/07/2017 17:14

a much more reasonable thing would have been to refrain from clutching his handbag in horror about a woman having period pain, nod sympathetically and say 'Sorry to hear that' and then got on with his day.

best advice to find yourself in court accused of discrimination...

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coddiwomple · 11/07/2017 17:16

yeah, and next time a man complains of a headache and the manager sends him home, the women will jump to sue them because she is not treated equally.

You cannot win, wrong if you ignore, wrong if you act. Calling HR was the only thing to do!
Now, the female from HR do need retraining.

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Madonna9 · 11/07/2017 17:17

OMG. This is crazy. It's just a bodily function, come on!
YANBU for being furious.

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Easilyflattered · 11/07/2017 17:18

HR sound like they handled it badly.

Guy just sounds a bit odd, most men in their 50s will have had wives, girlfriends or sisters who have enlightened them about period pain. Surely if he felt uncomfortable all he needed to say was "I hope you feel better soon " and then walk away to end the conversation.

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Chicken86 · 11/07/2017 17:19

De-lurking for the first time in absolutely ages to say PLEASE TAKE THIS FURTHER AND COMPLAIN!! This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time! Hope you're feeling better soonFlowers

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TheEmmaDilemma · 11/07/2017 17:21

Jesus. I haven't heard anything so ridiculous in a long time.

Please do complain about HR. Completely over the top way to deal with this.

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Chicken86 · 11/07/2017 17:21

I forgot to say, a complaint about HR that is!

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SarahJane123 · 11/07/2017 17:23

I'm totally with Groupie123 I think you should document this and make a complaint.

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dangermouseisace · 11/07/2017 17:25

Surely this is sex based discrimination. I'd call out both Guy and your HR dept from sex based discrimination under the Equalities Act 2010.

Would a man with a hot water bottle have been told to go home?

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