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To be a stay at home mum

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wwwwwwwwwwwwww · 10/07/2017 14:42

So I've decided (always knew) to be a stay at home mum. I'm perfectly happy to do this with childcare costs being so expensive in London it won't make a huge financial difference, but even if it did I'd probably stay at home.

I've been shocked by how much people have questioned this choice and expected me to justify it. People keep asking about going back to work and are shocked when I say I'm not (well outside the home). Yet nearly all the mum's I know returning to work express unhappiness. My mother worked when I was a child and was in the minority. I'm genuinely surprised by how unusual people seem to find it. I've found myself justifying it due to the cost of childcare etc. As people seem so judgmental of me doing it just because I want to and feel it's best for my child. I think happy parents are what's best for children generally so if other parents want to work good for them. I also know it is a financial need for some. Though with the cost of childcare near me you'd have to earn a lot to make it worthwhile. Am I missing some social etiquette for this? AIBU to leave my career to be a stay home mum, because I want to? People also make comments that we must be loaded (I wish!) which I find offensive. Though obviously we can afford to eat and put a roof over our heads on one income which I know is fortunate. Some of the people saying it though a certainly more affluent they just have different lifestyle expectations. I don't know if I'm be overly sensitive. I just as surprised being a sham is seen as such a radical choice. I am generally a quite and conservative person so I also find it surprising that people think what I'd view as private family dynamics as up for public debate. Then how many children you're going to have seems to be as well.

OP posts:
soulsearch1ng · 10/07/2017 16:09

totally depends on your circumstances if this is a reasonable move.

are you married? do you have a mortgage? a career you could get back in quickly if need be?

Fwiw, I have a friend. she gave up work to be a Sahm. not married. mortgage in her partner's name. he left her for someone else. She had no entitlement to the house, nor spousal maintenance (he was a high earner). her career was in tatters after 10 years at home.

it is not always as straight forward and making yourself financially dependent on someone else whilst giving up on your career can have a devastating impact later on.

InDubiousBattle · 10/07/2017 16:10

YANBU. I have been genuinely shocked by the reactions I've had to me being a SAHM. I've had various acquaintances and family say;
" Icouldn't do it, I need to make a contribution"
"what a waste of all those years working"
"Let me guess who's footing the bill for you sitting about all day!"
"A nursery would have got him talking by now" - ds was speech delayed.

I mentioned it to my SIL and she said that "I should hear what the women in her office have to say about SAHMs!!".

nocampinghere · 10/07/2017 16:15

I think it's such a complicated and conflicted choice that people often question it just to see your thought process / how you're making it work.

don't take questions as a personal attack on your choice

for some there is just no possible option (childcare costs mean it is impossible for lower earners vs the need to contribute to household income)

others worked long and hard to build their career and simply don't want to give it up

others don't want to be financially dependent / not be completely independent

some have dps that won't or can't share the childcare arrangements meaning working in their field would be very difficult

others just want to stay at home with their kids more than they want to go back to work and are willing/able to make the lifestyle sacrifices required

others have been saving for years / are financially secure to give them a choice.

and i'm sure there are lots more combinations of reasons - people generally are just nosey as to how / why you're doing what you're doing rather than actually judging.

It's taken me 10 years to work this out....

etc etc

Roomster101 · 10/07/2017 16:18

I suppose it depends on your friends and family but I find it odd that people apparently have such a strong reaction to the fact that you wish to be a SAHM as it is hardly uncommon for people not to work when their children are preschoolers. Is it because you are suggesting that you don't intend to ever work again rather than just have a career break?
Do you have a family yet?

nocampinghere · 10/07/2017 16:18

fwiw i returned to work after DD1. Couldn't wait.

i didn't go back after DD2. too knackered!

RudeDog · 10/07/2017 16:18

I have been both - I am well aware though that work gives me financial independence and a pension.

My SIL gave up work and had been very snearing of me working. Her children are about to leave home, she has ruined her career (been out too long and is unemployable), is financially dependent on a husband with poor health. She has no pension and no savings.
She lives in a big house and has lots of debt though.

I think being a SAHM for your children is good when they need you, but there is a time when it's sometimes best to put yourself first again.

JustHappy3 · 10/07/2017 16:19

As a sahm, i can confirm you will get this reaction a lot.
I never in a million years expected to be doing this - but it works for our family. Equally if someone praised me for "doing the right thing" i would put them straight pdq and if any politician said mums should be at home i'd be in the streets rioting and protesting.
There are good days and bad days, pros and cons. But overall it works for us and we keep revisiting and checking in with each other that that's still the case. There are moments when we take each other for granted - but good at saying sorry and adjusting behaviour when pointed out.
Just be very aware of the financial position you are putting yourself in if your dp leaves you in the future or dies. Make sure cb is claimed in your name (claim it even if you have to repay the lot). Think /discuss the pension situation. Make wills. Ensure you have access to all accounts and equal spending money. If he values your contribution there should be no problem. If not then heed those warning bells and do not give up your job

wwwwwwwwwwwwww · 10/07/2017 16:21

Thank you nocampinghere that is a helpful way to look at things. Perhaps I am interpreting it to critically. I suppose I am just not used to being so open irl about our personal financial choices. Also I'm very disinclined to comment on others life choices, so find it unsettling when it happens to me.

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InvisibleKittenAttack · 10/07/2017 16:25

I don't live in London, but in a commuter town where most people work in London. After DC1, those being SAHMs were in the minority, most went back to work. However, after DC2, most became SAHMs when the cost of childcare tipped into either making a loss or very little.

For many woman the assumption is that they'll go back to work after having dC1, so meeting someone who is doing something different will cause questions to be asked, in the same way youd get questions if you were making an other choice that's rather different to the 'norm' of your group.

That said, it's very hard to imagine leaving a little baby, many woman make this decision to stay at home when their baby is 6/7 months old, but once you've left them, you get used to someone else caring for them very quickly. Plus having been a SAHM to DC2, it's very different looking after a baby all day (and being able to meet up with friends easily, them having a long nap each day etc) to looking after a toddler who no longer sleeps, won't just stay in a buggy/on your lap if you want to meet friends for a coffee.

bemusedbewildered · 10/07/2017 16:25

you'll always find someone to judge any choice you make, shrug it off. SAHP where the parents are not married and pooling all money including pensions, housing and savings jointly though are being royally taken advantage of.

wwwwwwwwwwwwww · 10/07/2017 16:30

Roomster101 I do have one child. I am unusual in my social circle to be a sahm. If people have asked how long I'll do it for I've been honest and just said for as long as it's what's best for my family.

I am by nature an optimist. I am fortunate as a qualified teacher that should I need to return to work it should not be a problem.

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silverstorm · 10/07/2017 16:31

I find this surprising OP as I've been a SAHM for 14 years and I think I've had a grand total of 2 comments about it in that entire time. We're in London too.

Who cares what anyone thinks? What have we come to as a society when women have to justify wanting to care for their own children in a day-to-day basis Grin. When the hell did this become a cop out or boring? Women have been doing this since time began. Yes there are more choices these days and it can be harder to make ends meet, but that doesn't mean what's right for one woman is right for another. Go with your instincts at the end of the day and you will know what feels right for you.

My husband very much respects that I was always around for our 4 DC. I was never bored - the day is what you make it. Now they're all in school and I'm still far from bored.

If money was an issue though, I would probably have returned to work and I would know that that was the best decision in those circumstances.

Groupie123 · 10/07/2017 16:47

I'm a WP. Being a SAHM in my culture = being a housewife and no professional woman enters into it lightly, because once you make the move our family structures make it impossible to seperate being a SAHM from the housework. To the point where many of my family and friends probably don't do much child rearing at all (kid is in front of the TV for hours, no contact with other kids until school aged, no trips) and focus entirely on the housework. No value to any kid in having a SAHM like that.

OP sounds like she has a choice women from other cultures don't - she can opt out of the housewife bit and focus entirely on the childrearing aspect. So hopefully she'll do a good job with it & give her kid lots of life experiences.

But don't think for one second that I would ever be a SAHM. I like being a WP. I like taking my DC to school during our take your daughter to work day, I like showing them that women can be the breadwinner too, and DH and I like showing them how a person can work, manage their house, organise their time/day, and still make time for their families. I am smug about it too. But that's just my opinion, like you have yours.

WillRikersExtraNipple · 10/07/2017 16:50

I doubt anyone is really shocked or even cares. They are just talking, you're overestimating other peoples interest in your life.
They are probably just surprised you can afford it.

GetAHaircutCarl · 10/07/2017 16:57

Women are fair game to comment. Ignore.

I got lots of shock and faux concern when I went back to work (I really don't need to financially). Meh.

My DC are almost 18 and go off to their own lives in September. They're fab. We are close ( all on holiday now). My family is happy. My marriage is strong.

Still some people ask me if I regret working Grin.

KERALA1 · 10/07/2017 16:59

Anyone that comments negatively on either choice is a rude insecure weirdo. Ime anyway.

Ecureuil · 10/07/2017 17:01

They are probably just surprised you can afford it

Why would anyone be surprised about your ability to fund something without knowing the ins and outs of your finances? No one except DH and I knows our incomings and outgoings, so I'd be surprised at anyone expressing surprise at what we can afford!

PoisonousSmurf · 10/07/2017 17:02

They are jealous of your freedom. Ignore and enjoy it!

Coddiwomple · 10/07/2017 17:10

They are probably just surprised you can afford it

between the cost of childcare, commute and extras, you do need a fair salary to afford to go to work around here! If I was earning around minimum wage, it would cost me money to go to work. Hardly worth it if you don't have family around. Many of my friends work for low key jobs, but they have family to support them: someone to pick up from school,, take the kids during half term, be there when one is sick etc.

Umpteenthnamechange · 10/07/2017 17:16

Here we go.

Babyroobs · 10/07/2017 17:28

It doesn't really matter what others think, if you and your partner are in agreement about the situation and you're not claiming loads of top up benefits it doesn't really matter what others think.
I would bear in mind what happens when you want to start working again though when your child is older, do you have a career that you can pick up again relatively easily? And do you have a back up plan if anything were to happen to your Relationship /

swingofthings · 10/07/2017 17:42

You do what you want, it's your life and your choices and if your OH is happy with it, then you don't have to justify yourself at all.

I don't have any issue with sahm although it's miles away from my view on life and what I would want to do. I come from a family of divorces, so it was brought into me that financial independence is essential, but many women are very happy being homemakers all their lives very happy in their marriage.

The only thing that does get to me is the justification for that choice that it is best for the children. Although I don't doubt that this is believed, I can't help but think that it is often a cope out when it is actually what the person wants to do for themselves primarily.

ImAFurchester · 10/07/2017 18:02

They are jealous of your freedom. Ignore and enjoy it!

Confused

I would say what I experienced as a SAHM was the polar opposite of freedom personally.

WillRikersExtraNipple · 10/07/2017 18:04

People always say its jealousy. It very rarely is.

RestlessTraveller · 10/07/2017 18:14

The thing is people judge other people all the time. All it boils down to is people not being able to relate to your choices.

I get judged for being child free, because some people can't imagine not wanting children.

You judged working mother's in your op because it's the polar opposite of what you want

I judged you for being a SAHM because I can't imagine ever not wanting to work.

You don't have to justify yourself.

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