To think they should have woken him up?

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Four year old in nursery allowed to sleep on sofa in the quiet corner from 11-3pm
Older sibling claims others were told to be quiet as they didn't want him to wake.
Also claims saw no one attempt to wake him.
He therefore was starving when picked up at 3.10 because he had "slept through lunch"
A warm lunch that I pay for (£3.20)
How would you have reacted to this as a mum and how would you have approached this as a nursery nurse/childminder?

Massive over reaction for a sleep. It's a one off. Looking for a new nursery over it is ridiculous. They tried to wake him what on earth more do you want. You could have just fed After collection if he's hungry. Why such a big deal?

Given that he was recently off sick, I can sort of understand why they left him...BUT....them saying they tried to rouse him three times and he wouldn't wake so they left him is worrying. Surely that should make them concerned he was ill??

Also what you say about his recent investigation for SEN...I'd also suggest he was too much bother for them.

It sounds tricky all round OP and this time I'd just make a note of it...and move on.

But make it clear they're not to leave him again at that age for so long.

Yes I think this is just another thing for you from this kindergarten.

Bit strange letting him sleep so long without it being a concern.

I'd definitely look for another place for him.

But it's not one meal, it was breakfast, lunch and snacks in his bag. How does a child go 7 hours without being fed?

And who shakes a 4 year old awake? Shakes?

OP One of mine was a heavy napper and needed it. Waking him after an hour was a form of cruelty and a good way to sabotage the rest of the day! He slept all night too so it added up to a lot of hours but it turned out he had sleep apnea. It wasn't so dramatic that you'd notice him stopping breathing, but his oxygen levels were dropping and he wasn't getting proper deep sleep. Naturally it affects behaviour and learning, and I just wondered giving your comment about assessment and him turning out to be nt if something like that could be at play. Mine snored like an old man which my gp should have picked up on but didn't.

I would've expected them to wake him unless they thought he was unwell in which case they should have phoned you. But I also think I'd be more worried about him not going to bed that evening than missing lunch.

What Greggers said! How can this even be an issue? Ffs, the kid missed one meal and had a long nap instead!

At the nursery our children go to, the baby's and nursery children can nap whenever they want, but up to the maximum of 2 hrs at a time. If they sleep through meal time some is always saved for them. They do ask parents what's the latest in the day they can nap, but that's it. In the pre-school room they have one nap a day, usually after lunch for 1-2 hours, but they ask the children if they want to nap, it's their choice at that age.

My ds sometimes fell asleep when walking him to nursery for his 1pm session. He'd remain asleep in lie flat buggy until 5ish sometimes.

I told nursery to leave him as he clearly needed it!

I think you are massively over reacting
He has been unwell, he had a long sleep
His body would have woken him if the need for food was greater than the need for sleep

We used to live in Central Asia, and ds kindergarten insisted that all children napped for 2 hours.

ds at the time was 5 and he hadn't had a midday nap since he was 2. All discussion with kindergarten were pointless, the staff worked a 12 hour day and this was their break. I asked if he oculd take a book in to read while the others slept, and that was also refused.

They asked me to try it. We did for a few days, but ds was out of his mind with boredom, and so in the end we collected him before nap time, and the kindergarten persisted in thinking we were mad.

The only time any of my 4 year olds slept that long is if they were ill.

I would have expected them to try and wake him after an hour. Try and wake him at lunch time, and try and assess if he is OK, or just sleeping. (unresponsive, impossible to wake up can be a blue light emergency!)

But this is one incident and you reaction is quite pfb extreme, and to think of moving nursery over this is extreme. Of course if it is the last straw in a string of things, that is more understandable

We used to live in Central Asia, and ds kindergarten insisted that all children napped for 2 hours.

Do they go to bed later there?

Why was he not allowed the communal breakfast?
I agree with the nursery in that I would have let him sleep as a one off only. If it happened again I would be suspicious of their motives. However it really doesn't sound like a great nursery to me and you sound very unhappy with the care they are giving so maybe this should be your push to find a new setting.

molly - yes, but the OP has said that in the 3-4 room thye nap for 1.5 hours, which astonishes me as all mine had dropped their midday nap by 2.5 at latest, and they were later to bed than English kids

yes, the nap is mandatory (we are not in the UK). I probably do sound pfb (I have several including teen so am not but^ someone astute has correctly guessed that it's the final nail in the coffin. Not saying more than that as I will end up being accused of drip feeding).
I did appreciate all feedback though and will through gritted teeth make amends on Monday (despite him being up til 1am last night, yes you did read that correctly. He "wasn't tired" repeat x100) Hopefully I can get him on the waiting list for another setting, I'd take him to my creche but it's not possible sadly. Thanks for the different viewpoints and x Sleep tight