To ask people to PLEASE not picket hospitals?

[SerfTerf]

Or consider any kind of direct action against a hospital because of decisions concerning any individual patient.

It's irresponsible.

[WankYouForTheMusic]

Held accountable?! To you and a load of other idiots who know nothing about medicine or this patient? Fuck me, that's arrogant. Actually, arrogant doesn't even come close.

I'm a member of the public and it would be hard for me to think any worse of people who'd attend a protest at a hospital because of this. And if I were there with my sick child and you did anything to i paid a single staff member, I wouldn't be responsible for my actions. Fucking disgusting.

[TheFirstMrsDV]

I know you mean well Serf but this thread is not helping.
I would be amazed if anything happened as things stand
That page is full of keyboard warriors who live miles away and wouldn't travel to London for this
There is no real stomach for picketing a children's hospital.

This thread risks setting up yet more internet based conflict.

I think everyone should leave this family be

Just leave them alone

[Saiman]

You can sit in your ivory tower thinking you know best but if it was your little boy your reaction may be a little different.

Pretty much every person has said they feel for the family and dont know how they would react in this situation.

And don't forget. Quite a few of us mn'ers have been exactly where charlies family are.

[Brittbugs80]

There was talk of storming the hospital to surround his bed to stop machine being turned off, blocking Dr's from entering the hospital, threats of physical violence towards the Dr's, entering the hospital and removing Charlie and taking him home etc.

They are just disgusting human beings.

It's apparently part of the reason they won't let him home, as there has been talk of the family not letting Dr's turn off the machine at home, hijacking the ambulance and going straight to airport etc. Supporters also talked about running the ambulance off the road to take it over.

[UndersecretaryofWhimsy]

MrsDV I agree. I think the best thing we can do is encourage Mumsnet to take down any and all threads specifically about Charlie.

It's the end for him. Let it be the end. Stop using him to make a point and let him be what he is: a child who has suffered more than a child ever should, and to who the only thing we can give now is peace, in every sense.

[JustDanceAddict]

I feel terrible for the baby and his parents, but surely GOSH have tried their best and now Charlie needs to go with peace & dignity.
My life was saved by GOSh when I was a baby - it was 50/50 - I have the utmost respect for the place & im sure they have not made the decision to turn off the Life support lightly.

[lalalalyra]

If it was safe and feasible to let him home from hospital do they not think the bosses at GOSH wouldn't be delighted to not have the situation on their wards anymore?
If he could be home then he would be home.

Some of them issuing threats against medics could do with having a look at their own part in the decision for him to have to stay in hospital.

His parents' reaction is understandable. No one would want to give up on their own child. However, moments like that is when the people around you have to be the calm and sensible head for you. It's not the time for them to act like rent-a-mob and threaten doctors.

[organixeveryday]

To ask that you all do one small thing today
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/2967635-to-ask-that-you-all-do-one-small-thing-today

[poppoppop]

Saiman I am not saying I agree with a protest at the hospital I don't see how that would help.

However as a parent you would do anything in your power to save your child and do what you think is in their best interests.

He is not the property of the court or a hospital.

He is a little boy who has has his human rights taken away. There are criminals in this country who are given more rights than this baby has been given.

[expatinscotland]

TAAT. PLEASE take these down, HQ.

[MacarenaFerreiro]

This comment on the GOSH page is very chilling: " It has been brought to our attention that a number of people have been sharing hospital staff details online in relation to GOSH patient Charlie Gard. Please note that the Supreme Court made an order on 8 June which made it illegal to publish the identity of any treating medical staff, any pictures of these staff, or any information which may lead to their identification. We encourage all members of our social media audience to please adhere to these legal requirements. Thank you."

So reading between the lines, the rent a mob batshit crazy element have been putting the names and pictures of doctors and nurses on FB/Twitter as targets for their "protest". How irresponsible can people be? Let's hope they're prosecutred for contempt of court.

[JigglyTuff]

I agree. No more threads. If we don't want to contribute to the media shitstorm then we need to stop discussing.

[AdalindSchade]

poppop his human rights have not been taken away.

[fruitlovingmonkey]

I'm really tired of people saying I would do the same thing in the parents' situation. I have a lot of sympathy for the loss of their son but I would never behave in this way.
The whole campaign has been really misguided and I'm disappointed to see how many people have jumped aboard. Surely someone close to them should've been the voice of reason and advised the parents to stop a long time ago.

[CotswoldStrife]

I agree with the ruling too - I feel sorry for the family and Charlie, but there is no prospect of improvement. I feel desperately sorry for the medical team treating Charlie, who only want the best for him and to ease his suffering. The family disagree with the doctors, but that can be done without giving inflammatory statements to the media.

[Cerseirys]

If their just standing with signs then what's the issue. Your allowed to peacefully disagree.

Unfortunately, given the attitude of those posting on GOSH's Facebook page, I feel it would not be a peaceful protest.

[WankYouForTheMusic]

Yup. I also don't think this can now be dismissed as keyboard warrioring when people's personal details have been posted online. If I were one of them, I'd be pretty frightened, and not reassured by people assuming nothing untoward would happen.

Also mixed feelings about MN cutting all threads too. They are contributing to the frenzy, but equally, there are people who want to take action or support taking action against GOSH who genuinely think the public agree with them. MN has a pretty wide reach. It's possible someone will read a thread on here and realise that's not the case. That has to be a good thing. I think perhaps keeping one would be best.

[IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday]

This isn't a TAAT.

[WankYouForTheMusic]

I'm also concerned that if people's phone numbers etc have been posted online, those so minded can 'do something' without actually having to leave the house. YY to prosecutions for contempt of court.

[IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday]

I hope some people are actually learning facts about this case, from these threads, rather than relying on FB ranters. It's obvious many people don't have a clue about what is actually going on.

And to ask people not to discuss this, well it's all over the press, so it's a bit naive to think posters wont.

[sashh]

I've stepped away from this on twitter.

Apparently all he needs to go home is, 'a nurse and a ventilator' and GOSH are blocking it just to be obstructive!

[WellErrr]

Blimey there are some thick people about.

[NotACleverName]

In what way is this a TAAT? 🤔

[thereallochnessmonster]

But they could have allowed the child to go home, like they do with so many other terminal patients

But most terminally ill patients aren't on a ventilator and aren't so poorly as Charlie. Did you not read the thread last night, on which lots of medically qualified people commented? It's not as simple as 'just let him go home'.

And I don't think the hospital can trust the parents.