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I probably am unreasonable because it's for charity so I'm sure no one will feel bad about ripping me to shreds but the what that rapper on the Grenfell Tower Bridge Over Troubled Waters song says

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TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot · 26/06/2017 20:03

It could have been his mum or his nephew or him up there.

But a couple of lines earlier he says he's never even met any of the victims so what makes him think he could have been in their homes?

I might be a little forgiving if it turns out he lives in or has lived in a tower block as equally unsafe as Grenfell turned out to be but...

At least 79 people have died, many more are injured, traumatised, homeless and bereaved WHY IS HE MAKING THIS ABOUT HIM?

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NerrSnerr · 28/06/2017 13:06

I agree with momma. They're damned whatever they do. If they privately donate or help no one knows and they get accused of not caring, they do it publicly and then they are accused of doing it for publicity. They cannot win.

TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot · 28/06/2017 13:18

I'm not slating anyone who hasn't publicly done anything or even anyone who has done nothing at all.

It's just if you make a big public statement about how you're going to help, as this song essentially is, and then do nothing it makes your words look very hollow and attention seeking.

If you just want to quietly get on and help people out of the public eye then there's no need to make a song about it.

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user1476869312 · 28/06/2017 13:35

Quite a few of the has-beens and nonentities on that single probably couldn't afford to donate more than a tenner, anyway.

This is related and kind of interesting... Slight flavour of 'hang on, poor and BAME people are supposed to be the recipients of charity, not the providers of it...

MorrisZapp · 28/06/2017 13:39

Have just heard another charity record on the radio, it's the Friends of Jo Cox doing You Can't Always Get What You Want.

Great cause, utterly mind bogglingly bad record. Ghastly, ghastly, ghastly. It appears to feature the jaunty piano line from George Michael's Freedom, and the most echoey, overblown vocals since TONIGHT THANK GOD IT'S THEM INSTEAD OF YOU

TheIncredibleBookEatingManchot · 28/06/2017 14:38

Wow somehow I missed that line from the Band Aid song.

Did no one involved in it think, "wait -- yay bad things are happening to other people but not me! is not a great sentiment"?

It was sung in one of my DC's class assemblies a few years ago but I think the teacher must have cut that line or rewritten it.

User147 that letter is just horrible "a low-quality demographic." Disgusting that someone could describe people that way.

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MommaGee · 28/06/2017 15:21

Quite a few of the has-beens and nonentities what sort of description for human beings is nonentities? What level of worthiness makes us mere lowly mortals an entity in your opinion?

Also with acts and persons such as Below its hardly z-list singers
Bastille
Brian May
Ella Henderson
Emeli Sand
Gareth Malone
Geri Halliwell
James Arthur
James Blunt
Jessie J
Jon McClure
Kelly Jones
Labrinth
Leona Lewis
Liam Payne
Louis Tomlinson
Matt Goss
Paloma Faith
Pixie Lott
Rita Ora
Robbie Williams
Shane Filan
Roger Daltrey
Pete Townshend
Tony Hadley

LagunaBubbles · 28/06/2017 15:34

It should be "I will lay myself down" then?

Tell Simon and Garfunkel that then...

Grilledaubergines · 28/06/2017 15:40

GandolfBold

Sorry in case it's been asked but what is Easy London?

EverythingUnderTheSun · 28/06/2017 15:42

Have just listened to song for first time. Not as bad as I was expecting. Agree re. warbling!

In a way I see what you're getting at OP, but it depends on the context and in this context seems to make sense. It seems to be saying something like it's just as important and devastating that it happened to you, as if it had happened to me. Sort of - if you're hurt, I'm hurt, because we are a community (even if just bonded by our humanity). What happens to one of us happens to all of us, style of thing (although not individual "I'm a victim toooo!" crap).

In a different context I was irked by this phrase though. Someone I know was in a terrible situation and people were fundraising to help them. Someone wrote on FB that we should all give because so many of us could easily have been in the same situation. For a start, it wouldn't have happened to me because I wouldn't have made the same clearly unwise decisions (though so many others were reflecting on their own decisions in light of this). But mainly it was the implication that those who are in a situation we can't see ever happening to us might not be helped. It made me look at the behaviour of these people, and others, and it really does seem that people are much more likely to help if they think it "could happen" to them. With actually quite callous behaviour and victim-blaming towards who suffering in a way deemed too obscure or unlikely to happen to them.

(FWIW I did donate to help the person, but because I think we should help people in need, not because I was aghast "it could have been me".)

Basically, YABU in this instance, but I agree there is something about the "it could have been me" mindset that is a bit off, and seems linked to judgements of deserving/undeserving etc. Responses to things like the Grenfell tragedy make me wonder why people aren't so compassionate in everyday life, too.

user1476869312 · 28/06/2017 17:21

MommaGee, OK, some of them are probably still earning enough to pay the mortgage, but a good 20% are the sort who are in hock to the record company for the rest of their lives and/or couldn't get arrested with the type of crap they put out, these days.

user1476869312 · 28/06/2017 17:23

So they've jumped on the bandwagon with one for Jo Cox, too? Even more pointless and insulting opportunism. Mind you, the magnificent crassness of the choice of song is relatively amusing.

ToddlerIs2 · 28/06/2017 18:04

user1476869312 so that makes them a nonentity? Not a crap singer or a failed musician or a do gooder or a they hard or an opportunistic area. There so low and scurry they're actual non entities.

sashh · 29/06/2017 07:00

I think it is the modern rap version of, 'there but for the grace of God go I' ie it could have been any one living in any tower.

BUT OP YANBU I couldn't buy the song raising money for the Hillsborough families, I just thought, 'he ain't heavy, he's my brother' was not the most appropriate song.

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