To complain to a shop for selling DD alcohol?

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DD is only 16! She was with her friend as well (same age) and they purchased one of those Bailey's cans. It definitely requires age check. She doesn't look particularly old for her age and it's think 25 anyway! I'm not impressed and I appreciate its DD's fault for even trying to buy it and I've had strict words. AIBU?

They are 4% alcohol, so not very strong, 0.8 units per tin. They are strong enough to require id.

Don't complain to the shop, they won't care. Complain to the council/police as they need their alcohol licence checking.

Actually Blind it was the shop which broke the law not the DD. It's not illegal to buy alcohol when under 18, it's illegal to supply alcohol to an under 18.

If she has used someone else's ID then she's committed fraud though which would be illegal.

roundthehorn that's even bloody worse, FFS!

Also, no problem with telling the DD off but the law exists to protect young people and it's a concern that it isn't being upheld.

Teenagers will try to get alcohol. Yes, they should be taught not to, but the law exists for the fact that underage people try and buy drinks. The shop shouldn't be selling alcohol without checking ID because they should know its not just a random rule, it's there because young people will try. We can blather on about how OPs daughter shouldn't be trying to buy alcohol underage but the shop still should not be selling to people who aren't old enough.

Did nobody commenting here manage to purchase alcohol before they reached 18?

I agree and if I discovered my 16 year old daughter had been sold alcohol and discovered the empty bottle in her room or something I might complain if I was sure she'd lied to get it or not been checked. However if my daughter just waved alcohol in front of my face telling me where she'd bought it and encouraging me to complain I'd wonder what she was playing at.

round are you saying that somehow this was your fault and your dd fault? But that the over 18yo men who accepted the kiss/the view on breats bear no responsibility??

Yes we need to teach our dcs to be responsible. But as they are under 16yo (and therefore ot adults), thats why they are also protected by the law to stop them doing stupid things, as most children are doing. And that includes buyig alcohol, trying to do something they shouldn't just for fun or getting alcohol for a kiss....
Thats also why the law sees the over 18yo, the adult as responsible....

Wow, your DD bought them, told you about it so you can now go and get someone sacked?

Can you not just get a description of the assistant, go in and have a quiet word for them to be wary as next time the parent may report them and they could lose their job?

Or, you know, just get them sacked from a min wage job working shitty hours and being treated even shittier, that would work too.

^This^

Did nobody commenting here manage to purchase alcohol before they reached 18?

Absolutely!

What I didn't do was go home, brag to my folks about it and encourage them to go and complain and potentially get someone sacked. That's a nasty thing to do just for the hell/fun of it.

I think people are letting their imagination run away a bit here. She was surprised that it worked and told her mum. I would've probably done the same thing at her age, simply because I had a close relationship with my mum, and she knew I was occasionally drinking alcohol at 16 anyway (like most 16 year olds). I don't see where nastiness comes into it.

ChicRock yes I get that and agree too.Just cannot believe what short memories some of us have on these threads sometimes. Of course we need legislation and retailers have responsibilities. But this 16 year old purchased a single can of Baileys iced coffee, not crack.

And then ran home to her Mum to tell her.... I am at a bit of a loss as to why somebody should or could potentially lose the job when all that is needed are some strong words, as the OP has had with her DD.

It's not just losing their job, its a possibility of a fine (I think up to £5000) and a jail sentence.

The cashier may well be a teenager themselves

I'm pretty sure teenagers can't sell alcohol either, there's a boy that works at the tills occasionally at my local shop, if I have anything alcoholic he has to get someone else to authorise it.

Teenagers can't sell alcohol - they have to get someone over 18 to authorise it.
Shops selling alcohol to under 18s are liable for a big fine, they also can't sell alcohol to an adult who is obviously buying it for someone under 18.
Trading standards would be very interested.

She's lucky she didn't ask me outside of the shop, I would have got her the biggest bottle of Vod on the house.

Joking, obviously. But I think you should lighten up I really do. I bet your daughter is the whistle blower on house parties too!

Ps it actually wasn't that long ago that I was 16, and we were getting into clubs up in London on older siblings ID's.
Your daughter might not have done the same but I can assure many, many teenagers do.

I'd go to trading standards.

Yes, it's not a lot of booze. Yes, her daughter clearly knew she shouldn't have been buying it. But rules are rules and I imagine that they're not the only kids buying booze at that particular establishment. Someone could potentially lose their job, but only because they weren't doing it properly.

I mean the licensing authority, obviously. I dunno, whoever ensures alcohol is being sold lawfully 😊

Yes of course I bought alcohol before I was 18. And many times I was refused. I've even been refused when over 18 because I forgot my ID, which was annoying but hey ho. I have no divine right to obtain alcohol. I'm an adult now, not a teenager, and it's important that laws which exist to protect vulnerable people are taken seriously, not just waved away as unimportant.

I can't give the whole story because it will out people, but a young relative of mine with some learning disabilities was served alcohol underage because they were being cocky and trying their luck and they had to have their stomach pumped because they are too young and inexperienced to know how to deal with it. If they'd been over 18 at the time then fair enough, there's nothing that anyone could have reasonably done but they were only 14 and didn't look particularly old. I'm not saying that the child did nothing wrong in that scenario, clearly, they did, but the person supplying a child with alcohol without checking ID was more at fault because they are in a position of responsibility.

Tomorrow it'll be another thread about an evil cashier smirking as they denied a lovely responsible 21 year old a bottle of wine. This makes a nice change, I guess.

I only ask about ID because as an adult who is legal too buy alcohol I am 9/10 asked for ID if I am not a regular in that shop. Flattering sometimes, other times not so much.
(I am 26 and definitely look my age)

Rules are a lot stricter now so I don't get why a shop keeper would ruin their livelihood over it unless fake ID was used or they didn't realise the drink contained alcohol.

*Definitely the shop's fault and not your daughter's.

Perhaps you should explain that she broke the law and could have lost the cashier their livelihood rather than try to get someone in trouble.

I really struggle to understand how your mind works OP.*

This. I'd be having words with her, not trying to get someone into trouble

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Im in my 30's ( wish it was earlies!) and still get asked for id!
I've never not been asked.
No matter where i go, what area i still get asked ( i do look very young).

Do people think it's okay for a cashier to do something illegal then? Would you all be saying it was okay for a worker to steal stuff from the back but no one should say anything as they may lose their job? I bet no one will even reply to this. I work in a supermarket and it's quite well known that think 25 needs to be used. It also comes up on the till that it needs approval. You can't just go around and break the law and get away with it because if you didn't, you'd lose your job. How odd.