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AIBU?

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To think good weather is no reason to cancel a trip?!

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WobbleYourHead · 18/06/2017 22:24

DD is due to go on a trip to a local wildlife sanctuary tomorrow. They're walking there, spending a few hours at the place & walking back. It's just over a mile from school to the venue and the kids are Y1 so 5 and 6 (but mostly 6 at this point in the year).
Lots of mums on our class chat have today been saying how concerned they are about DCs being out in the sun all day and surely the trip should be cancelled in this heat. There are some saying they might request their DC are kept in school instead of attending the trip.
I appear to be the only person not really bothered by it as DD knows how to apply sunscreen, she'll wear a hat and have drinks. I also trust that the school will remind the kids to wear their hats, drink plenty and put extra cream on.
AIBU to think it's a bit of an overreaction on the part of the other parents?! I'm sure children in much warmer climates cope with school trips!

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Toysaurus · 19/06/2017 19:06

Jesus, I despair at the sun cream, hat and water being a magical formula. It's thick and lacks empathy.

My child has had heat stroke at school. Proper hospital treatment heat stroke. My son's body has difficulty regulating temperature. He fits in high temperatures like this.

I can't stand this fucking heat. It's too much. I wear shorts in winter when everyone's moaning it's too cold.

It's fuck all to do with helicopter parenting. Everyone's different.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/06/2017 22:27

boney - apologies... I ought to have said 'shouldn't' rather than 'don't ' , I guess. Kids (esp little ones) shouldn't be being ridiculed for being sensible (well, they shouldn't be bullied for anything).

ThanksMsMay · 19/06/2017 22:36

Every small child I have seen today has had a hat on. Not seen any being bullied for it.

YellowLawn · 19/06/2017 22:50

toysaurus but your dc is an exception, most dc are absolutely fine in this weather. hot and sweaty, yes, but def fine.

Frillyhorseyknickers · 19/06/2017 22:51

I'm baffled how many idiots do walk their dogs in the mid day heat, poor bastards.

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WobbleYourHead · 19/06/2017 23:18

It's interesting people have mentioned sports day because KS1 sports day went ahead today despite the temperature!

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brasty · 19/06/2017 23:20

So what about dogs in very hot countries? I have seen lots when it is very hot and the pavement must be very hot. Are their paws just used to the heat?

ShelaghTurner · 19/06/2017 23:47

If one more person says It's not that hot...

No, maybe not for you, but you're not everyone. We had a child pass out at the school fair at the weekend. I'm sure her parents were there, looking out for her, but it was still too much and the poor kid collapsed.

I cover myself with suncream, I'm still burnt to a crisp. And I remember being regularly burnt to the point of crying in my childhood in the magical mythical 70s. But we didn't know any better then, now we do.

brasty · 19/06/2017 23:49

If you are still burnt to a crisp you are either spending too long in the sun, or not wearing clothes to cover up.

user1497403588 · 20/06/2017 01:29

Yes the dogs paws do get used to the heat in other countries that are hotter/ hot all year round.. just like when you go on holiday and the ground is boiling hot at first but you get used to it.

toffeeboffin · 20/06/2017 02:11

I can't believe the hysteria about the heat. It's absolutely hilarious. There's like 50 threads about it!

And now the trip has been cancelled

MrsOverTheRoad · 20/06/2017 03:48

User no...dogs paws do NOT "get used to the heat" in other countries!That's a ridiculous statement!

I live in South Australia where you can literally fry eggs on the pavement...dogs don't walk on paths in the summer. We all know not to take them out!

They go out early or late before the heat...and usually stick to grass. Do you imagine that "foreign dogs" develop teflon coating on their feet?? They're DOGS not medical miracles!

MrsOverTheRoad · 20/06/2017 03:48

Brasty dogs here...in South Australia don't get taken out onto pavements when it's hot. Wild or stray dogs stay in the shade.

Clandestino · 20/06/2017 06:08

This is the time when all children should be outside playing and having fun, unless they have a medical condition. Just put plenty of sunscreen on them, make sure they wear a hat if you're worried and give them plenty of water.
Cancelling a school trip because it's 26 degrees is beyond ridiculous. Just stop the madness please.

CountryCaterpillar · 20/06/2017 07:03

It's not madness. Read the thead.

Many people don't tolerate heat well, including children. Gov't advice has been to stay in between 11 and 3 on some areas.

Just because you are okay doesn't mean you make it difficult for those who are not. This is basic stuff.

CountryCaterpillar · 20/06/2017 07:04

Including some children.

PoppyFleur · 20/06/2017 07:36

I accompanied a Year 1 (5-6 year olds) school trip which required the children to walk a mile each way. The weather wasn't an issue, it was a sunny day around 20 degrees, the problem was that several of the children weren't used to walking a mile a day, let alone 2.

Had it been a hot day (30 degrees yesterday in our area) I dread to think how some of the children who struggled with the walk in milder weather would have fared.

vinergartom · 20/06/2017 07:38

*Um fuck of Fish vingeartom. That's what I said^ and I'd be prepared to think you misunderstood what i was saying if you hadn't deliberately cut out the first half of a very short sentence.

The "lower half" of America (the hot bit) and Australia (all hot). I was clearly NOT saying all white.*

Thanks for that response, it did not read like that to me and I've seen on here numerous times people forgetting the whole of Australia is not white, blonde haired and blue eyed. Very sorry.

vinergartom · 20/06/2017 07:39

Bold fail there.

T1mum3 · 20/06/2017 07:43

Wobbleyourhead "Apparently they "risk assessed" it and decided the walk was too much given that the kids were going to be "out in it all day"
I appreciate there are individual children with medical conditions that may cause issues but that doesn't apply to the majority of kids."

So what do you propose that they do with the kids with the medical conditions while the others are on the trip?

Anyway the advice from the council in our area is for people to stay out of the sun between 11 and 3. If they were walking there and back it's unlikely they could stay completely in the shade. I'm not sure what the school is meant to do - disregard the council's advice because it's too cautious?

user1494187262 · 20/06/2017 07:56

It's a Safeguarding Issue and a nightmare for people like me who work with children.

olliegarchy99 · 20/06/2017 08:01

As I was confused re some of the posts I looked up the differance between heat exhaustion and heat stroke. It appears that some people are calling their children's sickness and headaches 'heat stroke' (which is apparently very very serious with organs shutting down and unlikely in temperatures less than 40C )
I too think it is sad that children who could cope with the weather and the walk are denied a lovely trip out. So IMO OP you were NBU.

I find the heat exhausting and get headaches from the sun so stay out of it but I am an 'old gimmer' so expect not to be able to cope.

CountryCaterpillar · 20/06/2017 08:03

Yep council here is not between 11 and 3 for old people,children, vulnerable people etc.

YellowLawn · 20/06/2017 08:06

able bodied children not used able to walk a mile or two is
and a total different matter all together.

budgiegirl · 20/06/2017 10:48

able bodied children not used able to walk a mile or two is shock
and a total different matter all together

I agree. Why is it that some posters are assuming that children who struggle with the heat must be unfit?

The two children who became poorly in our cub trip on Saturday are both fit and very active children. Both are capable of walking miles (and often do), as they come from very active families. Still, they both struggled with the heat. It has nothing to do with how far they can walk.

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