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AIBU?

To think good weather is no reason to cancel a trip?!

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WobbleYourHead · 18/06/2017 22:24

DD is due to go on a trip to a local wildlife sanctuary tomorrow. They're walking there, spending a few hours at the place & walking back. It's just over a mile from school to the venue and the kids are Y1 so 5 and 6 (but mostly 6 at this point in the year).
Lots of mums on our class chat have today been saying how concerned they are about DCs being out in the sun all day and surely the trip should be cancelled in this heat. There are some saying they might request their DC are kept in school instead of attending the trip.
I appear to be the only person not really bothered by it as DD knows how to apply sunscreen, she'll wear a hat and have drinks. I also trust that the school will remind the kids to wear their hats, drink plenty and put extra cream on.
AIBU to think it's a bit of an overreaction on the part of the other parents?! I'm sure children in much warmer climates cope with school trips!

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DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 19/06/2017 12:35

None of us came home sun burnt after a day playing out - we knew to go into the shade when we were too hot

Whereas I remember the summer of 76 slightly differently, perfectly normal to be sun burned,in fact I remember sitting with my mates picking all our peeling shoulders and noises where we'd burnt. Just back then it wasn't seen as a bad thing as we didn't use cream like we do now.Grin

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CountryCaterpillar · 19/06/2017 12:40

I remember regularly being burnt on the be a h as a kid in the 80s. I remember sitting in school peeling skin off my legs like wallpaper. It was horrid and worries me the long-term effects.

I so want to avoid that for my kids.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 19/06/2017 12:42

I'd forgotten about the pleasure of seeing how big a sheet of skin you could peel off! Shock

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FrancisCrawford · 19/06/2017 12:59

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RoseVase2010 · 19/06/2017 13:01

I wouldn't walk my dog but I would my child. Different species 😎

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budgiegirl · 19/06/2017 13:09

I wonder how many of the parents complaining it is too hot have taken their kids to Disney inOrlando?

I have. But my kids cope ok with heat, we didn't go at the hottest time of the year, and we cooled down in swimming pools and water fountains, taking a break at the hottest part of the day.

That doesn't mean that all children can cope with heat, just because mine can.

Teachers, unfortunately, have to err on the side of caution. They can't win no matter what they do. They cancel because of the heat and parents complain. They take the kids despite the heat and parents complain. If they take the kids, and one gets heatstroke, I bet that would be the teachers fault as well.

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ThanksMsMay · 19/06/2017 13:10

The majority of people in the lower half of the US and all of Australia are of European decent.

Um fuck of Fish vingeartom. That's what I said^ and I'd be prepared to think you misunderstood what i was saying if you hadn't deliberately cut out the first half of a very short sentence.

The "lower half" of America (the hot bit) and Australia (all hot). I was clearly NOT saying all white.

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picklemepopcorn · 19/06/2017 14:07

When you take your own child out for a long hot day, you schedule activity around how they are coping. If they look a bit hot and bothered, you take them in a shop with AC. If they get crotchety, you stop for an ice cream. They also tell you repeatedly how they feel.

In a big group, children tell you less and you are unable to be as responsive. If some children need to lie down in the shade for an hour because they are getting ill, the adult child ratios will get complicated.

Some of those children will have felt proper poorly this evening and tomorrow. Not hot and sweaty, not ambulance to hospital, but burnt, sick, headaches etc. I've had my child delirious and vomiting because a group activity couldn't cater to him as he began to get unwell.

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GreenTulips · 19/06/2017 14:14

Well those parents need to sort out their children's needs

Sun cream hats water etc and let them have a nice day

Dogs feet burn on hot tarmac - leave them to walk later in the cool after tea

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RickOShay · 19/06/2017 14:15

Also some children do not come to school with suncream on, or sun hats, or water bottles or even summer clothes. At least at school there is constant access to water and shade. I agree with pickleme, fine if you and your children, but different kettle of fish if a school trip.

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RickOShay · 19/06/2017 14:16

Of course parents should look after their children's needs, but some don't, so now what?

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GreenTulips · 19/06/2017 14:41

Now what?? Good question!!

You have those over concerned parents and Ines who could care less - school see them all

I'm the TA who brings in gloves and coats for winter outings - sun hats for those who 'forgot' the one who rings parents to bring in a packed lunch or the 'right' clothes because they 'forgot' again. The one who has extra coin should in her purse in cake bake days, the one who helps kids who's parents can't attend an afternoon or don't provide a suitable costume

I'm the one who never ever gets a thank you.

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budgiegirl · 19/06/2017 16:34

Sun cream hats water etc and let them have a nice day

But for some children, this isn't enough. On our Saturday trip with the cubs, ALL had sunhats, suncream which was topped up during the day, and lots of water. But still two kids became quite poorly from the heat. Some children are just more sensitive to it than others, despite our best efforts.

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Idratherhaveacupoftea · 19/06/2017 17:12

I overlook a school playing field, the kids have been running around like mad today. I wilt just looking at them.

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user1494187262 · 19/06/2017 17:14

I work outside with children.
One threw up with heatstroke today.

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GreenTulips · 19/06/2017 17:14

The teachers will be melting as well

As they said there's an indoor class and shaded trees - they will insist the kids are out of the sun for some of the day

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BoneyBackJefferson · 19/06/2017 17:38

slip slop slap

In the UK you get laughed at for wearing a hat, a good few of the pupils won't have suncream. Even less will have a hat.

You can either blame the school or society or parents but school is easiest.

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RiverTam · 19/06/2017 17:47

I wish people would stop bleating on about what they do in South Africa or Portugal, it's utterly irrelevant. If they'd be a gradual build up to 30 yes, everyone would be acclimatised. But there hasn't, has there? So people struggle.

We had a school trip cancelled after the London Bridge attack. Wasn't anywhere near there and personally I think it was unecessary and yes DD was upset but it's not my call so we just crack on.

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ErrolTheDragon · 19/06/2017 18:16

I wouldn't walk my dog but I would my child. Different species 😎

People have a tendency to think we're a bit physically pathetic compared to other species, but actually humans are extremely well adapted to long distance running, in heat. There was a piece in New Scientist about it not so long ago. Dogs, of course, only sweat through the paws and cool by panting which must be massively inefficient.

(The other physical skill humans are pretty much uniquely good at is throwing).

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ErrolTheDragon · 19/06/2017 18:22

In the UK you get laughed at for wearing a hat

Little kids don't. DD's nursery and infants school uniform included a 'legionnaire' style cap (ie baseball cap with a neck flap) - photos of a sunny KS1 sports day they all have one on. Never seen an adult laughed at for hat wearing either - bald DH either has a cap in summer or a wooly hat in winter.

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Justdontgetitatall · 19/06/2017 18:24

Onemorecupofcoffee What a ridiculous thing to say about dogs! It's a bit different when they're used to the heat! And I think you'll find that in hotter climates they have a routine of taking them out at cooler times of day, shorter coats etc.

DOGS DIE IN HEAT! Hence why they die in cars! I bet you'll be the first to play holy hell if you saw a dog locked in a car in hot weather?! Oh of course!

They have the same insides as us yet are covered in fur! Where is your common sense?!

My 72yr old mum took her Miniature Schnauzer out at 10:30 this morning as his fur is regrowing and groomers are booked up. The dog is sat in coolest room in house right now, panting. My mother certainly is not 'Precious' thank you very much! Biscuit

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Justdontgetitatall · 19/06/2017 18:26

Onemorecupofcoffee Plus their paws burn on the hot Tarmac/Cement!!!!

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BoneyBackJefferson · 19/06/2017 18:28

ErrolTheDragon
(Little kids don't. DD's nursery and infants school uniform included a 'legionnaire' style cap (ie baseball cap with a neck flap) - photos of a sunny KS1 sports day they all have one on. Never seen an adult laughed at for hat wearing either*

Oh right, I must be lying.

Or we have had different experiences.

You figure it out.

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ForalltheSaints · 19/06/2017 18:34

It is not that hot, but the fear of being sued or just excessive criticism means I am not surprised by the decision. Supported no doubt by parents who drive their children to school on what is a journey under 15 minutes walking distance, and add to urban heat.

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CountryCaterpillar · 19/06/2017 19:01

Our sports day Wednesday has just been cancelled (thankfully) . Gov't advice sent to the school as it's over 30 heat and vulnerable people and children should be indoors during the heat of the day.

Must say I'm relieved!

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