AIBU to be angry and confused that my friends wife, ABDUCTED the kids?

[Val1969]

My friends wife, who turned out to be an illegal Kenyan immigrant has abducted his two kids. They are 5 and 8, girl n boy.n

Social Services were involved, but closed the case.

It seems that she wanted, ONLY a Visa, and sadly duped my kind, placid friend. He did everything. My partner and he would take kids to park. She, his wife, ran a business from home and stashed thousands as he worked full time.

I think she wants to send the kids back to her African family, as she stays here. She accused him of beating her. As she had no evidence, she then tried to accuse him of sexually abusing them.

As they were asked questions by Social Services, no disclosures about him were made, but the kids talked of her cruelty and how she locks them in cupboards.

She appears to have got some kind of permission from the school and/or Social Services? Also the police appear to be treating it as a civil matter? Again, surely a child abduction is just that?

How and why would their regular school allow this? He has equal custody?

Also - the children are securely attached to him. They are his world. None of it makes sense.

She is also after a Council House he says? To go about it whilst terrorising the children in this way is so saddening.

What are his rights? My son 8 has been their best Park friend since he was 4 and she has taken them, it appears to a domestic violence shelter in order to start her Council House journey.

This is wrong. Surely she would need to PROVE domestic violence before being allowed to take kids from regular school? Am so confused. Please advise...

It is Father's day, and F4J do like to crawl out of the woodwork to celebrate.

I think because of the human right to a family life, once children are 7 you aren't generally deported away from them as they are deemed to have their own life here. Before that age, they would be deported with you. But that might not be 100% accurate. Or it might have changed.

""I think because of the human right to a family life, once children are 7 you aren't generally deported away from them as they are deemed to have their own life here. Before that age, they would be deported with you.""

Not if their other Parent was British Born, or had citizenship.

She can't get council housing if she is an illegal immigrant.

That is quite an important fact val

In most cases DV would be hard or impossible to prove. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Placing a burden of proof on the victim would just trap many women and children in DV situations. It's like rape, there are far far more women who are telling the truth than a tiny minority who make malicious accusations. No matter what the accused tell their friends, families and new partners

I'm not exactly sure why you think it's any of your business. Your friends first call needs to be to a solicitor.

It wouldn't surprise me if he makes excuses to do that though. The story you spin (or have been spun) is inconsistent, saying she wants a council house but also that she wants to leave the UK. That she just wants a VISA but is an illegal immigrant and didn't leave straight after marriage but when the eldest child was 8. Why on earth would she want to send her kids to her family but she stay in the UK? And he does everything for the kids but still works long hours? It doesn't add up.

You're only "park friends" with the man and DC. You don't know them at all well enough to make judgements. If your friend really is the victim then I'm sorry for him but why isn't he getting a solicitor on the case immediately?