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Trump leaks are better than Comey leaks: winning!

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TheClaws · 12/06/2017 12:29

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2948158-Is-justice-Comey-for-Trump

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Trump leaks are better than Comey leaks: winning!
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BoreOfWhabylon · 12/06/2017 19:01

Lordy!

Trump leaks are better than Comey leaks: winning!
Orlantina · 12/06/2017 19:05

I wonder if Sean will be asked about Trump visiting the UK.

cozietoesie · 12/06/2017 19:05

My grandmother would have said - about Eric and Donald Jr - 'Not got the sense they were born with'. Wink

Orlantina · 12/06/2017 19:12

Why leave the question of tapes open?

Don't the US people deserve better?

The President will let you know sometime...

Orlantina · 12/06/2017 19:13

What's the delay?

FantasticButtocks · 12/06/2017 19:17

'Politeness'. ( He had no idea what 45 wanted to say to Comey after all - it could have been deeply personal.) Yes, but what reason will Trump give for asking them to leave the room and leave him alone with James Comey?

cozietoesie · 12/06/2017 19:18

No date yet agreed for the visit.

Orlantina · 12/06/2017 19:18

He's looking forward to visiting the UK sometime at a suitable date (he was asked if Trump factored in his personal popularity when visiting a country)

His press briefings are getting much shorter.

cozietoesie · 12/06/2017 19:19

Now that is a different matter, Fantastic. Wink

cozietoesie · 12/06/2017 19:21

He wouldn't be elected round here. (People have a deep-seated mistrust of those men whose hair ages from the rear and not from the front.) Grin

cozietoesie · 12/06/2017 19:52

Sessions' subpoena. Smile

Sessions called to bear witness for Joe Arpaio

AcrossthePond55 · 12/06/2017 20:07

Sessions testifying in public is smoke and mirrors. It's a ploy to make him look open and honest, and so willing to let the People hear what he has to say. But when it comes down to it, he will not answer any of the 'real' hard questions. He'll cite executive privilege or national security.

Same thing for Scrotus if he's ever compelled to testify in public. He'll only openly answer questions he can either bluff his way through or that he believes he won't get caught in a lie.

The difference between Sessions and Scrotus is that Scrotus will openly and flagrantly lie under oath. He seriously believes that what he says is all there is to it and that people must believe it. I'll never forget the testimony in Scotland about the wind farms. Someone said 'If you can present any real evidence...' and Trump broke in with "I am the evidence!!!". And that's it in a nutshell. Sessions, I believe, will not openly lie under oath, but he will use legal maneuvers to avoid answering questions that would get him or Scrotus in hot water. There's no doubt that Sessions has 'pledged his loyalty' and any testimony he gives should be heard with that in mind.

You know when the economy was largely driven by apprenticeships, unregulated corporatism and no/low taxes? The Robber Baron era.

This is _exactly- what I've been thinking! Trump et al want to take us back to the days of the Vanderbilts, Carnegies, and that ilk. The days of Tammany Hall and rampant corruption. The days when the Golden Rule was that 'them with the gold, rules'.

The problem is that people (by and large) are not going to be taken in by fake corporate 'paternalism' and the channels of communication (MSM, the webz) are too wide open and people are no longer as illiterate as they were back in the Robber Baron days.

AcrossthePond55 · 12/06/2017 20:08

Joe Arpaio is a racist pig.

BiglyBadgers · 12/06/2017 20:10

'Politeness'. ( He had no idea what 45 wanted to say to Comey after all - it could have been deeply personal.)

The mind boggles... Perhaps he wanted to ask for advice about his haemorrhoids. Hmm

cozietoesie · 12/06/2017 20:13

I'm a little less despondent about Sessions. I don't think he realises just how minutely any evidence will be analysed. And it will be under oath. He just might find himself in a situation where he could only have the 'least bad answer' to a question - and that would include a 'non-answer'. Wink I can hope, anyway.

cozietoesie · 12/06/2017 20:16

You have to remember. None of these people know what information is already held on them - or known to other people. Smile

lionheart · 12/06/2017 20:41

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(THREAD) BREAKING NEWS: Trump will try to block Sessions' testimony in an illegal assertion of executive privilege. Here's why it's illegal:Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 2h

(1) The Intel Committee has made clear that what they MOST want to ask Sessions about tomorrow are his conversations with Trump about Comey.

(2) News reports from the past hour indicate that AG Sessions will attempt to evade ALL of these questions by invoking executive privilege.

(3) There are two problems with this—one, only the privilege-holder (Trump) can assert the privilege; two, Trump waived executive privilege.

(4) As we saw law week, Trump seeks to assert executive privilege NOT by asserting it but by leaving a cloud of DOUBT as to whether he will.

(5) DNI Coats and Admiral Rogers (NSA) tried to assert executive privilege despite NOT being privilege-holders and Trump NOT asserting it.

(6) As the Senate did NOT hold Coats or Rogers in Contempt of Congress, the White House has learned it can shut up witnesses WITHOUT A WORD.

(7) This is CRITICAL—as if the White House actually ASSERTED executive privilege, the Senate could take it to court to pierce the privilege.

(8) In any such case Trump would LOSE because he WAIVED executive privilege by publicly discussing (on Twitter) the "privileged" content.

(9) This is SCARY and UNCONSTITUTIONAL: it means Trump can LIE about private conversations and then SHUT UP witnesses without a single WORD.

(10) And worse, when Trump does what I've described he CAN'T be taken to court—as the only remedy is Contempt of Congress against a witness.

(11) The Senate Intel Committee must act NOW—within the next few hours—to demand that Trump publicly and clearly ASSERT executive privilege.

(12) If the Senate does NOT act in the next few hours Sessions will evade ALL key questions tomorrow with NO repercussions for him or Trump.

(13) We already know this presidency is lawless. What we CAN'T allow is a lawless president putting himself outside the reach of the courts.

(14) America is entitled to ANSWERS from its top law enforcement officer as to whether POTUS committed a high crime: Obstruction of Justice.

(15) If Sessions improperly asserts a privilege tomorrow that ISN'T HIS to assert—with a silent WH—he is COVERING UP an impeachable offense.

(SOURCE) The source of the news Trump will try to BLOCK the better part of Sessions' testimony tomorrow is Mike Levine of ABC. See his feed.

(PS) Senators: if Sessions stonewalls on the Comey matter you have to hit the Mayflower Hotel story harder than it's ever been hit before.

(FOLLOWUP) What I feared has now happened: via Spicer, the White House is officially REFUSING to say if it is asserting executive privilege.

lionheart · 12/06/2017 20:45

Smoke and distorting mirrors:

edition.cnn.com/2017/06/12/politics/donald-trump-cabinet-meeting/index.html

lionheart · 12/06/2017 20:48

This is something to contemplate:

www.nytimes.com/2017/06/12/business/media/megyn-kelly-alex-jones-newtown.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

lionheart · 12/06/2017 20:54

Ana makes a good point about the latest clip. As usual, the Trump's did not think this through:

Ana Navarro‏Verified account @ananavarro 2h2 hours ago
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Can anyone who saw groveling session of a Cabinet mtng, were everyone sucked-up to Dear Leader, doubt Trump asked Comey to pledge loyalty??

lionheart · 12/06/2017 21:00

Eleven minutes with Trump, if anyone has the stamina and a strong stomach:

www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/in-first-full-cabinet-meeting-cabinet-members-praise-pres-trump-and-discuss-their-work-965546563707

CaveMum · 12/06/2017 21:02

US Court upholds the block on the travel ban: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40252724

BiglyBadgers · 12/06/2017 21:05

Have we all enjoyed Schumer's response to the cabinet meeting yet?. Grin

twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/874327317748883456

GingerIvy · 12/06/2017 21:19

Good God, is Arpaio still around?? FFS that man was as old as Methuselah when I lived in AZ. I figured his own bile would have killed him off by now. Git.

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