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How long do you think it will be until the next General Election?

60 replies

Parker231 · 11/06/2017 11:18

We've been discussing/arguing about this over breakfast. I reckon May won't last and we'll have another election within 3 months. DH thinks she is going to hold on regardless. DT's (one who is doing politics at Uni) are fed up with it and have said they don't care.

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GhostofFrankGrimes · 11/06/2017 11:51

The Tories and their stupid referendnum has plunged the country into turmoil. The economy is taking a hit as a result. The Tories are just digging a deeper hole for themselves. Let the history books record this.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 11/06/2017 11:52

I'm at pains to point this out every time

We do not elect prime ministers. It is an appointment position. May, nor Cameron, nor Brown, nor Blair, nor Major etc have ever been on my ballot paper. I do not live in their constituencies. Why do people not grasp this elementary fact of our electoral system?

Do you have to be so patronising? Everyone knows that and everyone knows just how important the leader is as that person will be PM. Of the examples you quoted only Major did well when being re-elected. Macmillan was okish and the other 3 lost.

fakenamefornow · 11/06/2017 11:55

I predict another GE after the Brexit negotiations break down with no deal. Or the bad deal. I don't think a good deal exists.

JamieXeed74 · 11/06/2017 11:56

I would like her to stay for 2-3 years. But she will probably only last until next year.

TheScottishPlay · 11/06/2017 11:56

May 2022. Boris as PM from November this year to then.

fakenamefornow · 11/06/2017 11:57

The Tories and their stupid referendnum has plunged the country into turmoil.

Agreed. We should call in Tory Brexit from no on to remind everybody who created this mess.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 11/06/2017 11:58

Wilson called for a second election in 1974 after getting a hung parliament and got a small majority the second time.

BeyondThePage · 11/06/2017 12:00

May 2022. Boris as PM from November this year to then

I was going to say the same.

We all joked a year or so ago about the tale of 2 haircuts - Trump and BoJo...

WE JOKED - it was a JOKE!!! Shock

StillDrivingMeBonkers · 11/06/2017 12:00

LassWiTheDelicateAir
Your poor general knowledge is not my problem. So don't start with the personal insults.

And yes, I do read articles which I might share, I don't need them explaining. I daren't ever presume anything but I do frequent a lot of political forums, flooded yesterday and Friday with a plethora of people not understanding the electoral system. Not understanding the result. Not understanding what a coalition is (possibly sleeping between 2010 and 2015). Not understand what a minority government is. IMHO it's a worry that such an uneducated mass are allowed to vote but that's democracy for you.

Asmoto · 11/06/2017 12:01

The Tories and their stupid referendnum has plunged the country into turmoil

Hear, hear.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 11/06/2017 12:02

May will be gone by the end of the year.

New GE next year. If not it will be 2019.

harderandharder2breathe · 11/06/2017 12:02

I think there will be a Tory leadership change before the end of the year.

I don't think there will be another general election til at least after Brexit negotiations are over. The deadline for those being march 2019.

Although in theory it shouldn't be til 2022 and I can see the Tories clinging on to the bitter end. Brexit negotiations are a poisoned chalice and I imagine they won't want to call an election with that fresh in everyone's mind, they'll want another two or three years to try and make people forget the entire cock up improve things

BattleaxeGalactica · 11/06/2017 12:04

Five years but it won't be TM leading the Tories into the next election. I think she will cling on and hope the passage of time coupled with turning things around with her blinding negotiating skills at the EU table will save her.

There's no public appetite for another election. There wasn't for this one.

StillDrivingMeBonkers · 11/06/2017 12:06

My personal opinion, Boris is not a stupid man. Lets drop the insults, he's highly intelligent and lets not pretend otherwise. I would be amazed if this is the right time for him to launch a leadership bid.

The whole Brexit thing went marvellously wrong - he wasn't meant to win, he didn't think he'd win, all he was doing was using Farage as a spring board to a more sturdy political standing. He never said he was standing, ergo he never withdrew from the race because he never actually declared he was entering.

This morning we have George, knifing TM and bigging up BoJo. One sacked him and the other caused the collapse of DCs government. Trust GO? not in this lifetime! That man has scores to settle.

BoJo is no where nearly rehabilitated after that debacle.

The Q is who really is stupid enough to pick up the poisoned chalice that is Brexit .... I might be inclined to give it to JC to run with and sit back . Because who ever gets it - it's going to be a damned mess. And if its one thing we can be sure of - Labour will feck up anything to do with economics and finance.

AnnieAnoniMouse · 11/06/2017 12:07

If your DT studying Politics isn't excited by Politics right now, they need to change what they're studying.

Next GE? I hope 2022. We need to put this behind us & get on with Brexit.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 11/06/2017 12:08

Your poor general knowledge is not my problem. So don't start with the personal insults

Not my poor knowledge but you are deluding yourself if you don't think the leader has a significant effect. Why did the Conservatives get rid of Thatcher?

AlpacaLypse · 11/06/2017 12:08

The only stupid thing about the referendum was making everyone wait 24 years for it. It should have been called back in 1992 when Maastricht was signed, a treaty that had far more monumental implications than the 1972 one that our parents and grandparents generation got an opportunity to vote on.

I reckon autumn for yet another election btw. In fact we're already running a sweepstake.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 11/06/2017 12:10

Not understanding the result. Not understanding what a coalition is (possibly sleeping between 2010 and 2015)

The forum is full of posters who don't understand that.

GardenGeek · 11/06/2017 12:11

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Mummyoflittledragon · 11/06/2017 12:15

Ideally I think all of the parties need to work together and get us out of this mess because I don't think one leader/party and particularly what's on offer at the moment is capable of doing it. If they can't work together, I want another GE. So probably rather than later would be my guess.

CaveMum · 11/06/2017 12:15

Leadership challenge after the summer recess (time for people to plot and figure out who is on their side) and a new General Election next spring.

CaveMum · 11/06/2017 12:16

Oh and if anyone is interested, the Open University have several free online courses covering different aspects of politics available. I'm eyeing up several of them!

www.open.edu/openlearn/society/politics-policy-people/politics

Topseyt · 11/06/2017 12:17

I can't see how May can really survive for long after this. She is a dreadful Prime Minister, but I still fear the alternatives if there is a leadership challenge. Boris Johnson as PM is a terrifying idea. David David, no thanks. Michael Give, no thanks again.

We are really up shit creek with no paddle.

The only certainty we really have these days is that nothing is actually certain. Nothing at all.

I would not be surprised if we had another General Election before the end of the year. Nor would I be surprised if we didn't and TM or whoever replaces her arrogantly try to cling on claiming some non-existent mandate.

StillDrivingMeBonkers · 11/06/2017 12:17

I'm wavering between 26 October and 4 November as my primary choices, although it may well be as early as 7 September.

Elections are always on a Thursday , the 4th November is a Saturday, 26 Oct is a Tuesday. I'd urge caution before putting money on at the bookies!

Kokusai · 11/06/2017 12:25

I would like an election with no campaigning, just detailed manifestos and thats it. No mud slinging, no personal attacks just clear intentions in writing

Fully costed, and fact checked by some kind of independent or cross party panel.