AIBU in thinking JC should resign?

[QuiteLikely5]

He's made a mockery of the Labour Party and won votes by creating a manifesto that the country could not afford to deliver!!!

Resign JC !!!

FFS voting for Corbyn wasn't a protest vote, don't be so bloody ridiculous. Am sick of tory voters desperate to make Corbyn out to be a laughing stock....the only one looking bloody stupid now is May, she has made an absolute arse of this election and her party are scrambling to hold it together, but being so desperate for power she'll jump into bed with the DUP, who no one else who touch with a bargepole.

I'm not a Tory.
But I have spent years out there on the door steps.

And you cannot say people voted because of this or this with such certainty. There will almost definitely be an element of protest vote ( nowt wrong with that) plus one policy voters, plus one time swing voters.

I wish to god he would. But he's such an arrogant twat he won't. Him and his cronies won't be happy til he's turned the country into a communist state. I can't see the appeal at all I think he is a creepy megolmaniac who will stop at nothing to further his Marxist agenda inc fucking up the country's economy. I'd love to see who these young people vote for at the next election.

No bloody way!

Yes of course, Dandan, a Cambridge economist, widely respected and widely published would comprehend little about the economy...

I'd love to see who these young people vote for at the next election.

I'll be voting Labour. HTH.

It's not going to be a communist state, and the manifesto is not a Marxist agenda. Wanting things to be fairer and to provide equal opportunities does not equate to marxism, ffs.

Thank you dawn.

Och anyone with half a finger can find ten economists to back up their stance.

Economists aren't right it wrong. They have an opinion.

Let's be more sensible than that.

But I agree that the manifesto was not marxist. That's just daft.

However it does try to straddle two stools ( economically speaking) and I think we can have a valid debate about that surely?

I think he is a creepy megolmaniac who will stop at nothing to further his Marxist agenda

I respect people having different view points, but I have zero tolerance for these ridiculous statements. If you had the slightest clue what Marxism actually is, you'd realise how stupid you sound. But you'd rather shout out the same rhetoric rather than educate yourself and it just makes you look very uneducated.

I voted Labour knowing their hardish Brexit stance but hoped when I saw the results, they would take the chance to go for single market membership. The ballot paper said nothing about that or about immigration and if tory Ruth Davidson can say we should put the economy first, I am very disappointed that Labour cannot. If Labour support May in pursuing a hard Brexit, what will happen to their support? Most Labour voters I know were under the delusion they were somehow anti-Brexit.

So do those 50 countries have lower rates of corporation tax and free healthcare Dan

Correction free healthcare for now

Dawn - but Economics is a theory.

Theories only work if the facts back them up.

The facts here are: lots of people are saying they'll leave. Partly because Brexit will see them move; partly because of taxes. What sort of an ostrich ignores this and says blithely, "ah, but an economist says we'll be fine!" ?!?

Fab - bless you. Private healthcare comes with the job.

Corporation tax - well, they operate there already, so.

Maxandrubyrubyandmax

I wish to god he would. But he's such an arrogant twat he won't. Him and his cronies won't be happy til he's turned the country into a communist state. I can't see the appeal at all I think he is a creepy megolmaniac who will stop at nothing to further his Marxist agenda inc fucking up the country's economy. I'd love to see who these young people vote for at the next election.

What utter drivel Max

Attack appears to be the best form of defence.
Secretly though I feel they want him to go because of his success. He and the Labour party are now a viable opposition and they don't like it.

Look at the rates. See dawns helpful chart.

Lucky to Dan

Lucky you Dan. At least you will be OK.

Yes. And that's precisely my point, fab. Those who will be ok will leave. And then who will pay for the half built utopia?!

Even with a rise in corporation tax we will still be competitive though.

Not everyone in the top 5/% will leave of course.

But we're talking a relatively small number of tax payers here. Some of who are foreign anyway.

I really don't see how anyone can be so sure that no one will.

And relative to tax requirement we'd only need a fraction to leave/quit/reduce earnings/ change tax affairs to be in problems.

Exactly, carl. The number of people paying 1/3 of income tax is frighteningly small, compared to what is paid in.

I just don't get why people don't see this as a very real risk. Haven't they heard of a brain drain?