AIBU in thinking JC should resign?

[QuiteLikely5]

He's made a mockery of the Labour Party and won votes by creating a manifesto that the country could not afford to deliver!!!

Resign JC !!!

jng1 I didn't say Labour had won the election.

And the comment about TM being the only loser was, an admittedly rather juvenile, joke. Because that's what I think she is, a loser.

In not since

Oh and Polly
It was the banks that got us into mess.
Labour just happened to be in charge.

Interestingly it was Thatchers reforms that allowed the banks to get us into that mess.

The banks we usd taxpayer money to bail out, then forced the poorest to pay for it, the ones that we have not tightened the leashon, the ones that we gave fucking money to.

JC resign, if only...

Yes he has got the youth voting by saying he was going to abolish tuition fees!

Untrue, not every young person is driven by this. Last time I voted It was relevant to me and didnt sway me at all.

TM has made her bed, shes lying in it. JC all the way

SaorAlba no, the Tories "just happened to be in charge" whilst all this happened!

Oh and everyone who kept trying to smear JC as a terrorist sympathiser....
How do you feel about TM getting into bed with a party that are directly related to a group that killed nearly as many innocent people as the IRA?

How do you feel about her selling arms to the Saudis, who are currently arming that little know group, ISIS??

Does that not make her even more of a sympathiser???

YABU. He shouldn't resign.

TM's authoritarian days are now over. Largely thanks to JC.

Does that not make her even more of a sympathiser???

Don't be silly Lana she's a Tory

Honestly? The last thing the country need is for JC to resign now.

We will have to deal with whatever is going to happen with the Conservatives (aka TM being side lined in the very close future - she has lost the election well and truly).
We will have to deal with a minority government andf some sort of deal with the DUP.
Brexit.
Now is NOT the time to weaken the Labour pparty. We need an opposition and i do hope that JC will continue along the same lines tha n during the election campaign, showing the same determination and making himself heard as an opposition leader.

If, LATER ON, the labour party wants someone else, more suited for the next election, then so be it.
But tbh, assuming next GE is in 5 years (we can dream), he would be too old to stand for that job anyway. he is over 70yo already,

Is that you, Teresa? 😂 Jog on OP.

No one going to answer my point about private contractors??

Or about TMs new paramillitary friends?

polly I suspect it weill take just as long to recover from the mess the conservatives have left us in. No NHS, poverty increasing to dangerous level, no human rights (see the treatments of immigrants in detention centres),

All that also has some major negative influences on the economy too.
That is, if you consider that economy is the only important thing in life of course...

As for the manifesto and yooung people only voting for thier own interests... you do realise that when TM did her Uturn about the dementia tax that was because the older generation, all the pensioners, are voting for their onw interest and the dementia tax was NOT in their onw interest do you??

And one more for Polly before I get in the car:
www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/10/12/imf-austerity-is-much-worse-for-the-economy-than-we-thought/?utm_term=.59eceeb79875
Lots of links to facts & figures

Oops, sorry SmellBellina.

My mistake for thinking that Tories would hold their own leader to the same standards they demand from JC.

I agree with you, OP. I was hoping he and his crazy band of jokers of a shadow cabinet would be forced to resign after this election -- if only to save the Labour party and give it some sort of chance of winning in the future.

But he promised to write off debts of around £30k+ for each UK university student. I know it would have appealed to me at the time. Now we are here -- uncertainty for all.

"I am sure when the results are analysed it will show that young people not having experience of what labour do/did were swayed by social media and 'sweeties' from the labour manifesto (which would have bankrupted the country') - so to suggest otherwise is foolish.
JC is showing his arrogance by punching the air as if he had won and suggesting TM should resign (who had more votes than he did angry)"

So lets get this right the youth of this country is foolish and will believe anything they read?

Where as clever tory voters are not swayed by media at all even though they had a huge marketing budget comparatively and almost all print media completely biased in their favour.

Many people have experience of Labour governments even if they were neo-liberal and still voted Labour so your argument holds no water.

Calling everyone foolish for not being completely deluded like you is extremely ironic. You do realise that do you not?

I agree with you about the appalling manifesto. Parties should be held to account though labour could put whatever they wanted as they knew they wouldn't get into power. It was just like the leave campaign. Their university policy is completely flawed and they would have been forced to apply and withdraw it in a few years, if that!
The Scottish university system is already seeing problems where student from disadvantaged backgrounds are not even getting into university as they have a strict cap for the number of Scottish places provided which are not going to the disadvantaged kids. ( a cap that hasn't been rising with demand so it's almost like a grammar school system with top kids getting in) Moreover, their primary/secondary education is failing these disadvantaged kids even more than in England so they have a huge gap between those going to university.
Under labour, they would have had to cap the number of students they can fund places for and encourage more foreign students to come to our universities which is how Scottish unis get by.

YY Pumpkin

Amen to that!

Firewall Labours manifesto was infinitely better than the Tories.
The Tories didn't even fucking bother to cost theirs!

Plus we doknow we had no tuition fees for a lot longer than we have had them.

So we know it works.

Yes Pumpkin

Oh and the young don't read the shit the Sun and Mail put out either. I fucking love me with

Why are posters trawling through the Labour Manifesto? May is still PM. Stop deflecting

How about check out the DUP and see who the Tories have crawled into bed with.

Aibu in thinking JC should resign?

Are you bleeeding mad? He just confirmed himself in the position and pushed the party from being a helpless disaster to a great election result. He'd have to be crazy if he resigned now.

I just asked that question everthibk.

We've been told for months that JC is a terrorist sympathiser, but as soon as TM jumps into bed with real terrorist sympathisers not a fucking peep.

I am getting a bit cheesed off with some of the criticism of the youth vote

We have known for years that they tend to vote left

We have been nagging at them for years to vote

Brexit was a big issue for youth as they tended to want remain

So now they vote...after being nagged at for years

They vote left as we have know for years they tend to do

And now we are pissed off.