AIBU?
user1471517623 · 08/06/2017 09:07
Think this sums it up...
Voting here against working into old age or death. Against pittance pensions and taking the savings from old folks for care. Voting against free HS2 for the bosses and toll roads for the peasants. Against tax havens and tax avoiding super rich. Against 30,000 elderly dying from the cold and the greedy Tory energy cartel. Against public service cuts to the NHS, the Police, the Fire and Prison Services. Against the decimation of our Armed Forces and cuts to the Intelligence Services. Against £50k of debt for kids leaving university. Against the killing of foxes with dogs. Voting for working people and for a Brexit that preserves jobs not the comfort of the super rich.
Jinglebells99 · 08/06/2017 09:11
I've just been to Tesco and am horrified by the tabloid headlines urging their readers to vote against their own interest. Was talking to my elderly working class dad last night who gets all his election information from the Sun and had no idea about the effects Tory policies would have on his life.
lucydogz · 08/06/2017 09:17
whereas you're the fount of all wisdom jinglebells. And, of course, without your own axe to grind. This is the 2nd MN post from someone who's had to reeducate their older relatives. Whatever you think about pro-Tory posters, at least they don't seem to have an evangelical urge to tell their parents how to vote.
Andrewofgg · 08/06/2017 09:24
Nobody tells me how to vote, Alfie - are you another who thinks that any one who votes other than as you do is self-interested or deluded?
Our press is not perfect - see you the DM and the Guardian - but it's the freeest press we've got it. Have you got a better alternative?
WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 08/06/2017 09:30
Nobody tells me how to vote, Alfie
But the drip drip drip of anti-Corbyn, for example, does get through to many people. They start to believe what they keep hearing, even if what they keep hearing is twisted truths or even outright lies. And unfortunately there seems to be a huge problem with lack of analytical thinking in this country, which is why so many people believe BS, political and non-political. The media has a lot to answer for.
Kropotkinator · 08/06/2017 09:37
It is true though, companies don't spend billions of pounds on advertising campaigns (propaganda) because it doesn't work.
It works, regardless of how susceptible you think you are to it or not.
Newspaper headlines work the same way, they know exactly what they are doing.
NotBadConsidering · 08/06/2017 09:49
It's not the "freeest press we've got". The UK ranks 40th in the Press Freedom Index, behind Ghana and Surinam to name a few and only a few ahead of Burkina Faso.
More press freedom can be achieved. Norway ranked number one. Ironically the criticisms of press in the UK are all human rights based, something May has this week vowed to take down.
rsf.org/en/united-kingdom
lucydogz · 08/06/2017 09:51
Given the fall in print media, I think the influence of it is over-emphasised. I believe many more people get their 'information' through the net, which is totally unregulated. For example, I follow people on Twitter who roughly agree with me, as do my FB friends. MN is full of posters, of all political sides, who put forward absolute bollocks with absolute conviction.
People will retreat more and more into their own political echo chambers. This is far more worrying that right-wing print media IMO.
Leaderwithsoul · 08/06/2017 10:44
Oh wait who is going to pay the bills? Fcuk have the UK just screwed themselves? But at least we will own the National Grid To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.