Incident in London bridge

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Van hitting people, unsure if it is an accident reports of a knife.

Praying it's a hoax

My best friend was caught up in it, right where knife men were attacking. She is Muslim and could easily have been killed.

The BBC have just showed footage of a body being attended too - basically a body being covered up by a white blanket, why the hell would they show that?

Especially as they've been reiterating the police's "don't overshare" message.

That's appalling

Vauxhall incident now confirmed as a stabbing not connected to the London Bridge and Borough incidents which are confirmed as terrorist motivation.

Yes Hoopla, nothing to do with IS terrorism, it's that nasty PM in waiting that's to blame.

Userblahblah numbers, terrorists ARE solely at fault!!! 100%. But people still need protecting and helping and supporting and they can't be when vital services are slashed. I have friends who are Met Police Officers who risk their life EVERY day to protect people - terrorists or criminals, they will always be around which is why we have a police force!

Lalalalyra that's horrific

mets as someone who sees the effects the governments cuts have first hand I'm allowed to be fucked off with her and make no apologies for it either.

My DH is just waiting on the call to go help. Every single time something like this happens and I get to explain his absences to his DC.

The GOVERNMENT cuts cannot be denied and yet as you can clearly see from the news they are all there. Without hesitation. And will do until everyone is safe. On the front line. Doing their jobs and for that I, for one, am grateful & proud.

Oh blackteaplease how awful for your friend

KeepCalm An abundance of gratitude to your DH and his colleagues. Hope they can all stay safe

Hoopla It's the first time I've ever looked up how you complain about something shown on tv.

I mean, the presenter did the whole "You may find this very short clip of what looks like a body being attended too very upsetting" bit, but ffs.

That's somebodies relative.

@lalalalyra how awful. I've had to turn the news off. It's just all too horrid.

No one needs to see that surely? Imagine being a relative and you can't get hold of someone and that's on your screen? That doesn't bear thinking about

No doubt they'll say it was ok because it wasn't them who filmed it (it was mobile phone footage from a window) and because you couldn't recognise the person, but it is vile.

I've stopped watching. You'd think they'd have learned after the hideous photos of that poor man at Westminster Bridge with the obviously broken leg who died. His poor family seen things they should never have seen.

KeepCalm this is not the fault of police cuts okay, this will happen time and time again irrespective of how many police are on the streets. There were police right by London Bridge station as I had travelled through the area just before it happened. Thats why police were on the scence within 2 minutes.

If this was to be prevented you would need police on practically every street.

@Spectre8 at NO point did I say this is the fault of police cuts.

I have nothing but admiration & respect for ALL our emergency services and all that they do. My DH & our friends and colleagues included.

I just wish that sentiment was echoed by their 'employers' and that they were treated fairly. They will be working their arses off. Without a second thought or hesitation.

My annoyance is at the politicians always being 'seen' to do the right thing by thanking them profusely in speeches without anything ever changing. But as I mentioned earlier this is neither the time nor the place for a political rant aimed at all parties not just Teresa May.

mets as someone who sees the effects the governments cuts have first hand I'm allowed to be fucked off with her and make no apologies for it either.

Well if this isn't the time nor place then why did you bring it up in the first place. You made it political by saying that.

Do other people know people who mark themselves "safe" when they're not people who'd have any reason to be anywhere near the incident?

Honest to God I've people marking themselves "safe" tonight with as much justification as I would have had for marking myself safe in the Manchester bombing.

The same thing happened with Westminster. I don't get it. I marked myself safe in both because with both I might easily have been there (Westminster I "should" have been but was instead home ill) & have people on FB who might be worried when they hear about the attack. Why don't they mark themselves as it not applying to them instead? Then if it's a case of them needing to let someone know that they're never anywhere near that part of the enormous city & that means they're fine, that's someone doubly reassured, surely? There's just something a bit... I dunno... I can't quite put my finger on it... it seems a bit wrong somehow?

Telegraph reporter at the scene saying he's heard three explosions?

Gunfire probably. This is dreadful. We need to protect our country and our people.

ZebraOwl I agree about the Facebook 'safe' feature it almost seems like people wanting to get in on the action and finding it exciting. Don't worry guys, I wasn't caught up in the Westminster attack, even though I live and work in Bexley.

This is of course a sad event although I do fear I'm becoming slightly desensitised to these attacks. What we can take solace from however is that they haven't been able to carry out attacks on the scale of France's, i.e. shootings. The Charlie Hebdo attack and Bataclan were so 'successful' because in France obtaining firearms is not as difficult as it is here. There would undoubtedly have been a shooting by now if guns were at all easy to get ahold of. There are a lot of trigger happy Americans on social media claiming that if we had the right to bear arms we could protect ourselves but every terrorist attack makes me more glad we can't.

Nationcreationbusstation

Thank you for finding the words I couldn't at Should've-Been-Asleep-O'clock it is just that, yes - it has an air of wanting to make themselves part of the tragedy: like when 9/11 happened you'd get people in the UK pearl-clutching about how Someone They Know had A Near Miss, but "near" could mean by years/decades & States-distant.

"Gunfire probably. This is dreadful. We need to protect our country and our people."

Most of the posts about this have been on the thread in 'chat'

From the timeline reported widely from respectable sources, the gunfire would be from the police, whose response time from first call to opening fire was 8 minutes.

There's to be a COBRA meeting this morning, and a fuller statement can be expected after that (according to Khan, on camera in the last hour).

ZebraOwl Yes... my sister was on Waterloo Bridge yesterday... could've been her! Exciting. I guess you just have to ignore them... It is annoying/unnecessary though!

Nationcreationbusstation

I'm not on FB much tbh & only noticed these shenanigans as marking yourself safe shows you a list of who else has. Boggling. Genuinely boggling. You'd think people would be grateful to be well out of it.

With Westminster it has played on my mind I was walking my Brownies through there a few days before - but only because they're Other People's Small People & it's the What Would I Have Dones jangling in my own head, not the need to publicly claim a part of it. (Think it's worse as we'd a stressful time getting about as there was a protest in Westminster Square that weekend so we had a LOT more people than usual to navigate & some VERY small Brownies on the trip.) The fact that I "should" have been there actually doesn't get to me in the same way at all - I mean, I'm grateful I wasn't but I don't think about it BECAUSE I wasn't, iyswim?