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AIBU regarding this money?

102 replies

AlaskanSnow · 01/06/2017 09:26

Background - when DH and I first moved in together 12 years ago as boyfriend and girlfriend we had separate money, each paying the same amount into the joint account for household expenses.
Our earnings were uneven, I earned about £12kpa, he was over £30kpa. I also had a small loan of about £5k which I paid off out of income.

3 years later, he was made redundant. Our money then became joint as he went self employed and it was easier to manage that way as the income was erratic. My money went straight to the bills account to cover everything there, his money became food/petrol/spending money. Any spare we have goes into savings.

Our incomes have now switched. He earns just under £20kpa, I earn double that. Doesn't matter - everything is joint.

He received a PPI refund last year of about £2k. We put half away in a specific saving account (to pay for work needed to be done on his classic car) and spent the rest on a holiday. So we had joint enjoyment of the money.
The car is one he has had since before we got together. It was bought with money his Mum gave him before she died, and so is very important to him. Unfortunately it needed a costly repair about 5 years ago which we couldn't afford, so the car went into our garage and has remained there until we can afford to spend the money on it. Since then I have been squirrelling odd bits away for it. I put the cashback we receive from quidco each year into that account, and set up a "save the pennies" scheme which also goes into that account.

So here is the Issue.
Yesterday, DH's Dad gave him a gift of £2,000. As were driving home, I suggested he had half to the car account, and half went into our savings (as we are having building work done at the end of the year, all budgeted for, but these things often go over budget)
He disagreed and said that he wanted it all in the car account.

I said I would prefer it to be split, as we are using almost all our savings on the work, and would feel more comfortable knowing there was a cushion.
He said I could do that, as long as the £1000 I took for the savings was repaid back to the car account as a priority. I said I couldn't guarantee that, if we needed to spend it then I would be working on building the savings back up a bit before putting money back in the car account.
I suggested that it all go in the car account, but if we did need it, we could dip in.

By this point he was quite angry, saying we hadn't accounted for that money, so what did it matter of it all went in the car account. My reply was that I would feel more secure knowing we had the extra £1000 buffer towards the work, and if it wasn't needed, it could go in the car account. It was quite heated by this time, so I left it.

This morning he was still noticeably cool with me.
I said I didn't understand what I had done that was so bad, and he said it was my presumption that I could decide what happened to the money. I said it wasn't presumption, it was a suggestion to then discuss, as adults with joint finances. I was stunned when he said
"He didn't consider this joint money". It was his. I asked wasn't it the same as the PPI, as that was a loan from before we were together, and he said yes, that was also his money, but he chose to spend it on a holiday for us both.

I'm stunned. And a little sad.

During our marriage I have received money - compensation from a car accident, and also I sold the car my Dad bought me when I got a company car. In both instances the money was spent together (on our wedding, actually). I did not consider this MY money, it was ours.
Also, the money that I have out earned him by each year - if we had stuck to our original way of managing finances I would have lived luxuriously whilst he struggled, but thats not marriage. Or so I though

So, given that money was a gift from his Father, WIBU to think we would discuss together how it was spent? Was I (as DH put it) graspy?

OP posts:
aprilanne · 01/06/2017 09:33

i think that as the money was a gift to your hubby from his dad then yes its up to him how to spend it .ppi is different money from a job is also different thats joint money but .it did sound a bit graspy to be honest

araiwa · 01/06/2017 09:36

you sound really grabby over a gift to dh from his dad

SavoyCabbage · 01/06/2017 09:49

I wonder if his dad sees that his son is sad about not being able to maintain his car and so has given him the money.

228agreenend · 01/06/2017 09:55

I can understand where you are coming from.

Did the dad specifically say it was for the car, for Dh or both of you?

I think what you suggested was reasonable, especially as you have put money towards the car fund.

My dh likes to spend ('fritter away') any extra money we receive. I'd rather save.

AlaskanSnow · 01/06/2017 09:55

His Dad doesn't really take an interest in the car and it's not ever been discussed with him.
The money was given as his Dad received £4,000 and simply split it between DH and his brother, as he didn't need it himself.

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ajandjjmum · 01/06/2017 09:57

It should - in hindsight - have been handled differently. If his Dad gave him the money for the car, it would have been better for him to offer to pay up to £2,000 for work to be done, so that it would never have been your shared money.

I can understand you being hurt though, but to your DH this is more of an emotional decision than a practical, financial decision.

AlaskanSnow · 01/06/2017 09:57

If I was being grabby about this money, what about the money that I have received during our relationship? Should that not have been "mine"?

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AlaskanSnow · 01/06/2017 09:58

To clarify - the oney was not given "for the car". The money was simply given with no discussions or suggestions from FIL as to what to spend it on.
Just, "here is £2k. I've given the same to your brother."

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VivienneWestwoodsKnickers · 01/06/2017 10:00

Sorry, this was a gift to your partner. This is his money, not yours.

Ginslinger · 01/06/2017 10:00

I don't think you sound grabby at all but given that the car has sat in the garage being useless for 5 years wouldn't it be sensible to just get it mended?

Chloe84 · 01/06/2017 10:02

He's a know.

  • When you were on 12k and he was on 30k, he expected you to pay half of all expenses
  • when you received extra money as compensation and from sale of a car, he was happy for you to spend on your wedding
  • Now you are on 40k and he is on 20k he is happy to have a joint account with you rather than each half of total expenses
  • Now he's come into a bit of money, he's true colours are well and truly exposed

I would tell him keep his bloody money, but the joint account stops, he pays half of all bills/rent/expenses.

And the money you were squirreling away for his car? Spend that on a holiday for yourself.

Chloe84 · 01/06/2017 10:02

*knob

Iloveyouthismuch · 01/06/2017 10:09

Yeah I'm inclined to agree with Chloe. If his money is his money when it suits him, I'd be inclined to reexamine the whole financial arrangement you have with him.

Dadstheworld · 01/06/2017 10:16

What’s the end game for the car? I understand the sentimental value, but are you just planning on pouring money into it forever?

In your position I’d certainly stop squirreling money away for it at your expense, It’s his hobby, he can fund it himself.

ChrisPrattsFace · 01/06/2017 10:18

Second what Chloe has said. I would rejig all finances and go back to a 50/50 split. then i would be childish and say its MY money when questioned

foodtime · 01/06/2017 10:21

Completely agree with Chloe and loveyouthismuch.

Ignore araiwa they seem to be trolling.

Time you started paying half again.

eelbecomingforyou · 01/06/2017 10:21

Exactly what Chloe said. He's a tight sod - unwilling to share his money with you, but happy for you to support him.

I'd definitely reexamine your monthly spending. He should pay the same as you every month, don't you think?

And the car - how much money does it need spending on it? Will he recoup the money? Do you have a similar hobby that you spend similar money on? I'd tell him he can fund the car entirely by himself.

indigox · 01/06/2017 10:22

I agree with Chloe, he's had an easy ride being with you and now his true colours are showing.

Justmadeperfectflapjacks · 01/06/2017 10:24

The only grabber is your dh.

Your stash now becomes your stash imo. .

hennybeans · 01/06/2017 10:24

He's BU. In a marriage money should be shared. It's not like you wanted some of the money for an expensive handbag! I would be hurt in your position too. You want part of the money for a sensible, joint reason and he wants all the money for a sentimental, but ultimately frivolous reason.

JustMuddlingOn · 01/06/2017 10:27

I think he's out of order to be honest. Yes get some enjoyment out of gifts but your suggesting half for his car and not at the expense of household money. Its either household money or 50/50 not as it suits him. Explain to him the instances over and above wage income you could have had extra money and why you feel this way.

Pinkheart5917 · 01/06/2017 10:29

It was a GIFT from fil to his ds, therefore it's dh money surely as a GIFT from his dad!

It was a GIFT.

I can't imagine me wanting a money gift someone gave to dh tbh and when my parents gave me a cash gift a few years back it was a gift to me and dh didn't ask for it either. Different stroke different folk I guess......

BluePeppers · 01/06/2017 10:31

So you have been working with what you thought was a clear understanding that all money was joint money.
You put money you got from a car accident, some your dad gave you towards that, in the family money pot.
'Now he has some money from his dad and it becomes his money only, not the family money.

Well you need to have a chat on finances and what is going where. If he wants to separate money like this, then you also need to have a chat about how you are putting money towards a car whe. It could be 'your money' too.
Atm he is having his cake and eating it because any money you have is yours together but he can chose what to do with 'his'.

Fwiw, I think he just really want to put the money towards the car, doesnt want to wait and has a 'me me me' moment.
BUT this is something i wouod raise as a bigger issue becaue it coud well become the 'norm' for him. Your money is family money to pay for everything but his money is his to do as he pleases.,

RB68 · 01/06/2017 10:31

you seem to have worked hard to add to the car fund which is something for him. I would suggest he have all his Dad's money for the car fund and that you take the shared money out of that and put that in savings....he might struggle with that logic but it is HIS logic and he may get the point you are making. Going forward squirrel into savings either for you or for both of you - but he is not considering money as joint money.

My DH struggles with this but then when my parents regularly give us lump sums he doesn't seem to have a problem spending it

MommaGee · 01/06/2017 10:32

If you had £100 given to you for Christmas would you split it or treat yourself? To me its a gift not wages so its his.

Also in the long run its less money you need to pit onto the car fund through your quidco5and penny saving stuff. Its not like he's spending it on a holiday for himself etching 88