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To really resent living in a safe Tory seat?

152 replies

AngeloMysterioso · 01/06/2017 03:58

My constituency has had the same Tory MP since it's inception 20 years ago- in the 2015 GE he won by a margin of over 8000 votes, 20.9k+ to 12.6k+ votes for the Labour runner up.

I mean I'm going to vote anyway, but part of me is wondering what is the fucking point??

OP posts:
BishopBrennansArse · 01/06/2017 09:27

What bugs me most is the fact the Tory incumbent is so complacent and lazy because he knows he's a shoo in.

You could put a blue rosette on a donkey here and it'd be elected.

Meanwhile we're getting begging emails to campaign against school funding crisis.

TheSpottedZebra · 01/06/2017 09:27

If we're playing Tory safe seat top trumps, then I'm joining in - my MP is John Bercow, and the other main parties by tradition don't even contest there.

Farage did try, once, but karma punished him by chucking him out of the sky (plane crash).

Yay, democracy.

ExplodedCloud · 01/06/2017 09:32

We did live in a Labour constituency but had to move after DH was made redundant and got a new job.

Sionella · 01/06/2017 09:34

Exploded - so you had to leave a labour seat because there were no jobs. Moved to a Tory seat to take a job. Now you're complaining about living in the Tory seat? Confused

ShatnersWig · 01/06/2017 09:39

Surfer Love the way you pop up on most of these political threads with your "facts" which are often anything but. Because many constituencies that have a Tory MP will have city, borough, district councils that are NOT in Tory control at all and they have far more to do with safety and what actually goes on than an MP.

elevenclips · 01/06/2017 09:39

Irony = you don't like tories but you like living in a nice area with people who vote Tory with tidy properties and leafy state schools etc. Most of the areas which are the safest blue seats are like this.

ExplodedCloud · 01/06/2017 09:43

No. Spin it how you like but no. There were jobs. DH was made redundant and we had to go where his specialist role takes him. I'd been commuting an hour each way to my job (in a Tory area) because we didn't want to move.

Sionella · 01/06/2017 09:49

So now you both work in a Tory area. But resent it. Well, ok. Whatever helps you sleep at night!!

LotisBlue · 01/06/2017 09:49

And this is why we need proportional representation.

'Nice' wealthy areas tend to vote Tory because they are wealthy, not the other way around! In these areas people are generally doing ok, and are happy with the status quo which benefits relatively wealthy people like themselves.

Oh and I live in an area which I love and where the Tories have no chance Smile

ChasedByBees · 01/06/2017 09:52

Same here OP. I feel like democracy doesn't represent me since I moved here as my vote never counts. I'll keep voting and hoping for a miracle though.

BishopBrennansArse · 01/06/2017 09:53

I think you'll find those 'naice' areas have the same as mine, families who struggle, a huge homelessness problem etc but due to the sheer numbers of I'm alright jack affluent people still get outvoted every time.

I'm not moving away from my children's specialist schools and care teams and my support network for anything, thanks.

It's only due to disability we can afford to carry on living here as our HB is maintained.

Hillingdon · 01/06/2017 09:57

Are their any Conservative voters around or do they keep themselves to themselves. The left wing on MN are out in force just like last time, chasing people off threads, claiming that if you vote Tory you don't care about anyone but yourself etc etc.

Does anyone really feel confident with Diane Abbott being Home Secretary - really! Or John McDonner who claims that Chairman Mao is the person to follow..

Does anyone realise that the brain drain from the UK is going to be huge if we go back to the old Labour days of strikes and union power!

We have almost full employment, mortgage rates are at an all time low.

Last GE no one dared say they were voting UKIP. Now its seen as OK. They weren't my choice but with PR they would have got some seats which I think would have been fair. They got tons more votes than the SNP.

Dashper · 01/06/2017 09:57

Sionella and Surferjet are you both deliberately being obtuse? I live where I do for reasons of jobs, low house prices and practicality. Plus my DS loves my MIL who lives down the road. It has been described as many things but never naice.
FWIW I moved here after university never intending to stay. Couldn't have gone back to my home constituency due to lack of jobs. It was a Labour seat then but I believe it's now Conservative, so nothing is guaranteed.

ExplodedCloud · 01/06/2017 09:57

You know where we work, do you? No. You're filling in the gaps to suit your own agenda. Never mind accuracy.

gillybeanz · 01/06/2017 10:00

You could always move to a labour seat if it's that important to you.
How far would people have to move to enable this.

I do think it's a bit hypocritical that people choose to live in these areas with their lovely leafy lanes, outstanding schools, grammars, money pumped into local communities, less crime, etc.

You can tell a labour seat area, they are degenerated, crap schools, with no grammars, high crime rate, despondency.

Sionella · 01/06/2017 10:02

I am not being remotely obtuse, Dashper. I am saying that most of the safe tory areas are nicer than the traditional red ones, and that people like my cousins wouldn't be too impressed at people "resenting" living somewhere that is so much nicer than where they live. If you dislike it that much, do something about it. Like Exploded did!

surferjet · 01/06/2017 10:04

ShatnersWig
Educate me then.
How many safe Tory seats have labour run councils?

tiggytape · 01/06/2017 10:04

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thinkiamgoingcrazy · 01/06/2017 10:06

You can tell a labour seat area, they are degenerated, crap schools, with no grammars, high crime rate, despondency.

Speak for yourself - while not "naice", our area is not as above.

gillybeanz · 01/06/2017 10:08

think

I'm sure it isn't much better Grin

howthelightgetsin · 01/06/2017 10:08

Hillingdon I think generally Tory voters are less loud about it, on MN and elsewhere (I see a lot pro corbyn and labour on my Facebook when I know most of my friends are probably conservative voters, they are just not saying anything).
I'm pretty annoyed about the whole election thing and the Tory campaign has been a shambles, but I will still vote conservative on balance.

Not that it matters in my safe, London labour seat.

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 01/06/2017 10:09

barbara

I live in a nice middle class village, very tory

We come under a working class impoverished town, very tory

It is in the south though which is traditionally, very tory

I think the two big cities near us are labour though

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 01/06/2017 10:11

gillybeanz

Your labour example there is the same as our tory town

Well towns,

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 01/06/2017 10:12

Agree with bishop

LotisBlue · 01/06/2017 10:12

Those of you saying 'if you don't like living in a safe tory seat then move' - do you really think it's as easy as that? Most people are tied to their local area by jobs, family, childcare....

Speaking of jobs, surely lots of those people living in nice Tory home counties areas will commute to work in Labour held cities?