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To ask how anyone can justify the fact Theresa May categorically refused to say she thinks Brexit is a good idea

129 replies

Bearbehind · 29/05/2017 22:04

Seriously, the Prime Minister has basically just said she doesn't agree with Brexit but 'it's the will of the people' so she'll carry on regardless.

Doesn't that make anyone think twice?

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makeourfuture · 30/05/2017 17:06

Just a hint of a plan would be nice...

twofingerstoEverything · 30/05/2017 17:08

I think if you are going to go for the line that leave voters believed the red bus, which was debunked quite some time ago

The audience member last night, who said that she had voted Leave BECAUSE she believed the bus lie and wanted the money to go to the NHS, seemed pretty angry that this was not going to happen.

you really need to produce some evidence that these people have changed their minds and would vote differently now. All the poll data I have seen has shown the opposite.
What sort of poll data have you seen that specifically refers to people who believed the lie and voted on that basis saying they would have still voted Leave if they hadn't been swayed by the bus lie?

WrongTrouser · 30/05/2017 17:11

Proud I've reported your last post. I don't know if you are aware but neither personal attacks nor disabilst comments are allowed on MN.

WrongTrouser · 30/05/2017 17:26

twofingers I don't think you need to see data for those particular voters. You can tell from the overall figures. If say 5% voted leave because they believed the bus (not getting into the argument of whether the bus slogan was a promise or a suggestion) then that 5% should now have changed their view. If it was 10%, then 10% should have changed their view, etc. But there has been no change. So it is not convincing that this was people's true reason. I think it's worth remembering that there was and still is a campaign to try to convince people that wanting to end FOM makes you a racist. (Not saying anyone on this thread is saying this, but elsewhere) so some people may have given a more socially acceptable reason to pollsters and kept their actual reason to themself. As we know from polls way before the referendum, 70 - 80% of the population were unhappy with immigration levels, so a lot of people must have started keeping this view to themselves once the "leave voter/wanting less immigration = racist" campaign got under way.

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