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To blame my parents for my eating disorder

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ifyouhaveto · 28/05/2017 10:09

I have namechanged because I am going to be referring to me, here. I suffer from an eating disorder. I have done so for over twenty years and I am still trying to crack it. It started off as anorexia, although never got "serious" there was a point where I got very thin as a result of seriously restricting what I ate. At any rate, I've maintained a normal-ish weight, sometimes on the heavy side of normal and sometimes not, but the point is I suppose no one would look at me in the street and conclude I have an ED, whether anorexia or compulsive eating.

Actually every day is awful. I can't eat like a "normal" person at all: I binge eat and gain weight and after a bit restrict to near starvation, then after s bit can't stand that, cycle repeats itself.

I've already had to have a serious conversation with one of my children to try to explain why I do it and that they are gorgeous and beautiful and must NOT follow my example. But I do think mine was made not born if you like. In other words if I'd been brought up in another family I would have been all right.

Food was always an issue and to be fair my parents did the right things with me as a fussy eater and my dad grew his own vegetables and sometimes we would go on holiday with families with older children who would try to encourage me to eat things like melon and oranges and French bread which I just found hard to chew. But sometimes they would lose it a bit and I had to do the "clear your plate" thing (I remember stuffing food in my sock to flush down the toilet) and one time they forced a tomato into me and I was sick. I still don't eat tomatoes!

My mum was terrified of me getting fat and she used to get really angry/upset if I had a friend who was thinner than me. I think it kicked off when I started at secondary school, although I remember a few isolated incidents before that where she would either call me fat or allude to it. I looked a normal size on my year 7 school photograph but that year I won an award for playing the piano and appeared in the local paper with some other girls who were playing other instruments. The photographer positioned us standing in a diagonal row if that makes sense and I was at the front and looked bigger than the others. In my mind I looked huge but it was the angle of the photograph as we'd all been 'stretched' if you see what I mean and I also looked taller and generally more strapping than the other girls and I wasn't.

Both my parents acted like I'd come home with drugs, and my dad made me name all the other girls and then I had to repeat after him, "I am fatter than Katie. I am fatter than poppy."

I couldn't do anything growing up without my weight coming into it. If I did something good it didn't matter because I was fat. If I did something bad, I would be insulted for it alongside 'fat.' I remember dropping and smashing a plate once (not on purpose!) and my mum looked at me with contempt and said 'you stupid fat bitch' as if being fat made me drop a plate somehow? The weird thing was I wasn't fat, really. I was a little bit plump about when I was 13, I think. Looking back at old photos I had a bit of a protruding tummy and my face looks a bit heavy but nothing remarkable.

It's hard to know what to say! I was never allowed to snack. So whenever I was in the house alone I would binge eat on loads of cereal and toast. I grew when I was fourteen a bit after years of being smaller than everyone else and I definitely look a perfectly normal size on those pictures. My brother was 3 years older than me, and he'd started going to a gym and started taking me with him and I discovered I liked it.

My mum was so odd with me about my appearance and weight though. I think she was proud of my looks, although I'm honestly nothing special at all. Just an averagely prettyish sort of person. But them constantly going on about how fat I was, I don't know. I think it really fucked up my whole relationship with food in a way. We had a lot of long holidays and I couldn't get away from her especially in the car driving to France or Spain, she'd go on and on and on about my brothers faults and mine.

She died when I was 15 (she was an alcoholic although I didn't know it at the time)

I still don't really know what a 'normal' diet is, still binge eat, and then starve.

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ifyouhaveto · 29/05/2017 07:50

I've bookmarked that; thanks Flowers

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ErnesttheBavarian · 29/05/2017 07:50

So your Q is, AIBU to blame my parents for my ED?

The resounding answer is no, YANBU.

You blame them. Fine. Q is what are you going to do about it? Nothing.

OK then, also your prerogative. But then, like a couple of others have asked, what's the point of the thread? Just to say your parents fucked you up?

Any suggestion of help is rejected out of hand. I find it hard to understand a long post detailing how fucked up you are, and then state it doesn't really affect you and you plan to just carry on living like this and not try to change. Confused You can obviously do what you like but it seems to ba a massive contradiction.

When your dc start their own thread about ED in a few years time, maybe you'll wish you tried to fix it? How old are they? What sex are they?

Allfednonedead · 29/05/2017 07:55

Nobody is saying you shouldn't have posted! Although that may be an example of the kind of internalised negativity you use as defence.
Fwiw, your account of your childhood sounds horrific, for so many reasons, but then compounded by your mother's death and brother's suicide.
You have suffered so much, it is not surprising you have built unbelievably thick and high defences.
You don't have to agree with anything anyone here says, but do believe we are saying it from a place of compassion and in many cases experience. And so, just listen/read, and try not to challenge, just accept that this is how some other people think.

ifyouhaveto · 29/05/2017 08:12

When people ask (except it isn't a question, really) questions along the lines of

what is the point of this thread Confused
why did you post, OP Confused
I don't get why you posted Confused

a better question is "why are you asking."

You're asking not because you're interested in the answer but because you want me to feel bad about having posted.

Well, I don't.

Sometimes, treatment doesn't work or there isn't a cure. We accept that for physical health problems. No one would dream of berating someone with a known illness that may or not be terminal but can only be managed, not actually cured.

Because I have tried counselling four times now and quite honestly, I would have been better saving the money and buying new clothes with it in terms of raising my self-esteem. Therefore I am reluctant - resistant, actually - to try again in search of this "cure" which I do not believe exists and in any case, if the counselling 'doctrine' is to be believed, it will never work unless the person believes in it.

I do think some people are born with mental health problems, or at least a tendency to them. I don't think I am one of them. I think my problems with food now, and self image when I was younger are because of my upbringing. I'm not really interested in solving the problem because there is nothing that will. I manage it as best I can, some days are better than others.

As for attempting to guilt trip me with my children, don't bother. I don't scream in my daughters faces. I don't encourage one child to bully the other and giggle about unkind nicknames and repeat them to my daughters' friends. I don't allow one child unrestricted access to sweets and the other none. I don't look at my daughters and start wailing and weeping because I wanted a pretty child and don't have one. Admittedly, I'm giving a low bar there but you know.

As with most things, I try to give honest answers to difficult questions. My response to the children generally is "people eat for all sorts of reasons." We try to talk a bit about what some of those reasons are. Also, when in doubt I turn to the natural world. We live rurally: unfortunately we have a few opportunities to see nature eating nature. Its a stark reminder to me where greed can lead.

You're just never going to be perfect. I mean, who said you do, before having children? I lead by example in that I'm a good person. I'm kind, gentle, polite and loving towards them, their friends, others. If I thought my presence was harming them I'd leave. I'd walk and go. I don't think it is, the opposite actually.

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Branleuse · 29/05/2017 08:17

YANBU, you didnt stand a chance of having a normal relationship with food. They were cruel to you.

Leilaniii · 29/05/2017 08:18

You're a grown up now, you can't go on blaming your parents forever. If you are aware enough to see that you have a problem, then you are aware enough to start eating properly.

As things stand, you have a very high chance of your own DC blaming you for their eating disorders in a few years' time.

ifyouhaveto · 29/05/2017 08:22

I don't think I do blame my parents in the sense that I am angry with them. I think that has long since passed. In particular my mother has been dead longer than I've been alive and I don't really remember her in an emotional way. She is so distant to me now. I struggled to grieve properly at the time and I now feel nothing, she's like Father Christmas or the tooth fairy to me.

If anything I feel a bit sorry for her but even that is very dulled as she doesn't seem real to me.

No, it's not about 'blame' but exploration. Recognising that I became this way for a reason and knowing where that reason lies. That's all.

As for my own children blaming me for their EDs, like I say, you're not going to make me start sobbing and agree to go to counselling because I owe it to them or something. I'd be better off saving the money and putting it into savings accounts for them. It. Doesn't. Work. How many times?

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PotteringAlong · 29/05/2017 08:23

As for attempting to guilt trip me with my children, don't bother. I don't scream in my daughters faces. I don't encourage one child to bully the other and giggle about unkind nicknames and repeat them to my daughters' friends. I don't allow one child unrestricted access to sweets and the other none. I don't look at my daughters and start wailing and weeping because I wanted a pretty child and don't have one. Admittedly, I'm giving a low bar there but you know.

You're just never going to be perfect. I mean, who said you do, before having children? I lead by example

Then get help. You are not unreasonable for blaming your parentS for your problems with food. You will be very unreasonable if you don't take the blame for you children's problems in a few years.

PotteringAlong · 29/05/2017 08:25

Cross posts.

Well, don't bother then. Carry on blaming your parents and your children can feel the same about you as you do about yours.

ifyouhaveto · 29/05/2017 08:26

I think I'll draw a line there, because the thread is becoming circular.

There is no help.

My children are fine. If I ever get the sense they are NOT fine - that my presence is harming them in some way - then I will leave.

I have tried four times to get help, it does not work. Thank you.

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ifyouhaveto · 29/05/2017 08:28

Quite honestly, my ED such as it is was caused by regular verbal abuse from an unstable alcoholic.

I have never verbally abused my children and my last alcoholic drink was in June. One gin and tonic at a summer concert. I'm not completely teetotal but as good as. I perhaps have one alcoholic drink in an average year.

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PotteringAlong · 29/05/2017 08:30

There is no help.

One last question - if your children do develop an eating disorder will you really just up sticks and leave them to it without trying to access any help for them? Because if you think there is no help then you'd do nothing. But I suspect that you wouldn't. So is there no help or do you not want any help?

PotteringAlong · 29/05/2017 08:31

It doesn't matter that you're not an alcoholic - you're still an addict, just a different drug of choice.

ifyouhaveto · 29/05/2017 08:32

That's you twisting my words not what I said at all though, is it? Because what I said was that if I ever felt my presence was harming my children I would leave.

I am afraid I find the "your children WILL get an eating disorder" posts ridiculous and think the posters stating that must have a very limited life view if they think the fate of every child follow their parents' footsteps.

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QuietNinjaTardis · 29/05/2017 08:35

You're not listening to what people are saying. Counselling is not the same as therapy. People are advising you get therapy not counselling.

ifyouhaveto · 29/05/2017 08:36

Thank you.

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Runningissimple · 29/05/2017 08:44

i agree that the posters using your children to try and emotionally blackmail you into therapy are misguided and your anger is fair enough.

I too am pretty cynical about the self help industry.

Ultimately it comes down to you freeing yourself from the legacy of your parents' fucked upness. You don't need to do it for your kids but you should do it because you only get one life and the first 18 years don't need to define the next 60.

I read a book called TA Today about transactional analysis. I found it a really useful tool when thinking about relationships and learnt behaviour.

It sounds like you've learnt some good coping strategies and this might give you some more? I've experienced some dreadful counselling and some really helpful psychotherapy. It's a very unregulated industry and ultimately it is up to you to make your own changes...

Leilaniii · 29/05/2017 08:56

I agree with you that counseling would be a self-indulgent waste of money.

It really is as simple as 3 healthy meals a day, no snacking. Stick to that and you'll all be fine.

madcatwoman61 · 29/05/2017 08:57

I'm sure that this problem originated with how your parents treated you. However, YOU are now the parent and it is not an option to say you will 'live with it' because for some reason you do not wish to change things. You are responsible for stopping the cycle for your children otherwise you will damage them just as surely as your parents damaged you - and that will be down to YOU and not your parents

JustDanceAddict · 29/05/2017 09:02

Bloody hell - the 'I'm fatter than..' thing is very disturbing. You can have a financially privileged childhood, but have an emotionally abusive one simultaneously. I hope you can get some help.

mynameiscalypso · 29/05/2017 09:04

I've been following this thread with interest. I have very similar eating habits to you - an endless cycle of starvation and bingeing that I can't break. I've recently started therapy for another issue which is unrelated but has definitely made the eating worse. I haven't told my therapist yet because I don't know how he can help my change something which is so ingrained in me as a coping mechanism. Or, to be honest, if I want to change it.

FinallyHere · 29/05/2017 09:24

Gillian Riley's approach is , for me, mercifully therapy free and very effective. here

Looks at the connection between feeding ourselves and self esteem

Hope you find what you need.

GloriaV · 29/05/2017 09:28

mynameiscalypso in my view that would be because you are getting to the nub of the problem, you may think you know what the underlying issue is of your eating but certainly in my case what I had self-analysed as the issue for my problems wasn't correct. It prob hadn't helped - but the fact was, at 50+ years old I didn't know myself at all. Only by speaking honestly to a counsellor long term did I sort things out.

Crumbs1 · 29/05/2017 09:45

Sounds like your parents behaviour impacted on your relationship with food but can you blame parents for your adult behaviours? I'm quite firmly of the view that we reach a point when we become adults (and I don't think it's specifically 18 but usually several years later) when we need to acknowledge our childhood and then move on to accepting responsibility for our own wellbeing, responses to others and behaviours. It sounds like your almost at that stage and actually aren't really blaming your parents but wanting to put things into perspective so you can move forwards.

nokidshere · 29/05/2017 09:47

It sounds like your childhood was horrendous and ynbu in apportioning the blame to your parents.

However, there is a point in life where you have to take responsibility for yourself. You, and only you, can decide how your life is going to be from now on.

I can't work out from your posts wether you want to try anything else or wether you are satisfied with the coping mechanisms you have put in place already. If counselling and therapy don't work for you maybe it's because your expectations of the outcomes are unrealistic? Instead of looking for a "cure" look for some acceptance and peace.

Maybe a more holistic approach would give you more self confidence and self esteem which, in turn, would help you to undo the destructive behaviours that are causing you anger and pain.