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In not letting 9mo ds watch children's TV?

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ScoobyC · 16/03/2007 20:12

I have never put children's TV on for ds, and I haven't bought any Baby Einstein dvds etc and I am suddenly worrying that I am in some way depriving him as I have just realised that (some) other babies do watch TV.
So, this may be a ridiculous question (it really is amazing what you can worry about when you have a child), but does anyone have any thoughts on whether it is good for a baby's development to watch kids TV?
As background, this hasn't been a particularly thought out decision or anything, it's just that ds has never been a baby who sits, he is very active and so he wouldn't just sit and watch TV. For purely selfish reasons, if the tv is on it has adult programs on as I don't want to watch kids tv until I absolutely have to!

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Fillyjonk · 18/03/2007 11:02

hmm

i shall consider a purchase, next month

it sounds intrigiung

there is still the question of why kids would want to watch it

Spidermama · 18/03/2007 11:03

Its worst of all in young kids because of something to do with how brain patterns will set.

I'm so bad at explaining, I can only urge anyone interested to read the book.

Spidermama · 18/03/2007 11:05

Filly he explains that the brain will be drawn to fast moving, bright images which over stimulate. Apparently very small babies crane around to see it.

It doesn't make it good or right. In the same way you'd look at some fool dancing and shouting 'Look at me, look at me.'

Fillyjonk · 18/03/2007 11:09

ok am sold. these things always intrigue me. I may come back shouting "Bad Science! Bad Science!" but will try to do so nicely if I do

Or I might think "wow, that makes sense". thanks for tip off regardless.

AitchYouBerk · 18/03/2007 11:16

the thing about aric sigman is that he used to appear on tv a lot, which always gives me a giggle. he was richard and judy's resident headshrinker until raj persaud came along. my impression of sigman, as a man rather than scientist, is of an unsufferably pompous arsehole. but i haven't read his book.

you know, i was speaking to my mum about this and she said that i watched a lot of tv as a child. a lot. pretty much all the kids' tv there was, which say a couple of hours a day. they'd just got their first B/W tv and they thought that they were educating me in the ways of the world etcetera etcetera.

and i'm aware that this is spectacularly unscientific but I Just Don't Think It Did Me Any Harm. i like tv. love it, even. but i make my living as a writer and sometime broadcaster so i am biased beyond belief.

dd watches baby einstein dvds (we ripped them off the internet, computer crime fans) and i really think they are excellent. not just for the minutes that they buy me to load the dishwasher but the fact that we enjoy them togehter (me with one eye on the dirty plates). we both stick our tongues out when the dragon does, we both laugh when DD makes elephant noises because she knows that there is a large pachyderm hiding behind some bushes etc etc etc. clearly we have an open-plan living area...

fair enough people who want to grab a few minutes for housework or whatever, but i actually think that that Baby Einstein dvds are A Good Thing. i think dd has learned a lot from them and i enjoy 'talking' with her about what we've seen. (er, tickling each other and making animal noises). and without being a terrible boaster she is at the moment head and shoulders above her peers with regards to communication and words, a portion of which i put down to beign able to cross-refer to baby einstein dvds while reading books, pointing things out etc.

they are actually really well-made pieces of television, beautifully synchronised to the classical music and expertly and imaginatively edited. we got a freebie Brainy Baby dvd in the paper a few weeks ago, nominally the same product but it was unwatchable shite. see, if your mum's a tv critic it's inevitable you'll watch the telly, but you'll only see the good stuff and imho that is baby einstein.

Fillyjonk · 18/03/2007 11:19

at aitch reading the torygraph

(thats where the bb video came from, yes? or was it the times?)

AitchYouBerk · 18/03/2007 11:21

Sunday Times. they pay my mortgage, i'm not complaining.

Spidermama · 18/03/2007 11:26

I also watched loads of TV as a kid Aitch. This book says TV has changed fundamentally because of the speed of editting and the necessity to keep people on the one channel. The nature of TV has changed.

But I think telly watching did harm me. I always seem to need something be it telly or radio. Every time there's a quiet moment I reach for stimulation which can't be right.

Fillyjonk · 18/03/2007 11:30

rupert murdoch

oooh its all coming out now...

ps I am pretty hyper and never had tv as a kid

though that proves bugger all

long may this debate prevent me from studying...

AitchYouBerk · 18/03/2007 11:31

but that's precisely why i think the Baby einstein dvds are good, because they do linger on images and take their time.

i'm a bit of a radio fiend as well, spider, but it may be genetic. my grandma and mother listened to radio four all the time. in fact, i'm more conscious of switching off the radio as background noise than the telly with dd, because the telly is more 'actively' on, iykwim, whereas i'd have radio 4 burbling all day if i had my druthers.

hatrick · 18/03/2007 11:31

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AitchYouBerk · 18/03/2007 11:32

oh i looooove uncle rupert. treats his staff very well. at least better than the observer, who do not pay their tv previewers and instead use students desperate to get their names in the paper.

AitchYouBerk · 18/03/2007 11:33

i am also from a big family, hatrick. good that you've named yourself after a tv procuction company...

hatrick · 18/03/2007 11:35

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AitchYouBerk · 18/03/2007 11:39

i'm not familiar with pablo but i've caught 64 zoo lane a couple of times and i think it's absolutely charming.

Pruni · 18/03/2007 12:04

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AitchYouBerk · 18/03/2007 12:18

mmmmmm Life On Mars...

hatrick · 18/03/2007 12:22

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puffling · 18/03/2007 12:28

We didn't have a telly until I was 8, and then it was only on for 'improving' programmes. I never knew what the other kids were talking about at school, and as a shy child, this put me at even more of a disadvantage.
I'm afraid I'm not as single minded as my mum was and I tend to have the TV on a lot, including CBeebies. I don't have any informed opinions on whether it's harmful, but it made me laugh after play group the other day when I heard a mum say, 'No you can't watch .... . You know we don't have the bloody tv on in the daytime.'

ENTP · 18/03/2007 12:38

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AitchYouBerk · 18/03/2007 12:50

oh but i couldn't give a shit about educating her, that's what school's for. i just think that if i'm goiing to let dd watch some telly (and i am...) then i'd rather she was watching a relatively unbranded, slower and more rewarding imho programme designed specifically for her age group rather than the broader brush of cbeebies. i'm interested to see the scientific research that you refer to however, as i suspect if refers more to hot-housing than watching a dvd for half an hour.

FrannyandZooey · 18/03/2007 12:57

I agree that the slower paced programmes with fewer screen "events" (scene changes, cutaways etc) are far less dodgy than typcial fast paced, shrieky mad cartoons. But the Cathode Ray Tube is not our friend, in general.

AitchYouBerk · 18/03/2007 13:08

Cathode Ray is friend, my lover, my boss, my paymaster, my soulmate... won't have a word said against him.

FrannyandZooey · 18/03/2007 13:09

Well we have all shacked up with some dodgy geezers in our lives, Aitch, I am not going to hold it against you

ENTP · 18/03/2007 13:14

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