Electoral fallout after Manchester...

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First off, my heart is breaking for all those who were murdered last night and the families who've lost loved ones. There is evil in this world and that anyone could target a concert with such a huge number of children is beyond my comphrension

What will the political fallout be though? It can't be random that it happened so close to the election and must've in part been planned to destabilise our political system and process. How this is responded to be May and Corbyn will tell be telling. Obviously campaigning has been suspended for the meantime but when it swings back into action how much manipulation of people's fears about terrorism are going to be feed back into the campaigns? Will May try to take advantage of Corbyn's perceived lack of leadership and reticence to resort to hardline policies?

I think you are wrong. I doubt this had anything to do with the election.

And as for trying to say the conservatives will try and take political advantage... Words fail me.

I think it will lead more people to vote Tory. Not necessarily because of policies or leadership but because in a time of uncertainty people are more likely to vote for the status quo.

I doubt it had anything to do with the election though or that anybody will capitalise upon it.

Too early op too early

The Sun already posted a despicable headline at 2 am. Don't want to link to it but it was something like "people killed because Corbyn and O'Donnell sucked up to the IRA." Vile. YANBU, OP.

It's got nothing to do with the election for heavens sake.

The police and security services are still gathering facts/investigating.

I was wondering this, OP. If May does go on about needing strong leadership at this point, it's very easy for Corbyn to point out this happened on her watch.

Too soon, OP. Let people searching for their dc find them, let people who've lost loved ones grieve them, let the emergency services do their work and then you can mull over the electoral implications.

I doubt it is aimed at the election, but of course it will have an effect. And of course the politicians (of all colours) will use it in their respective ways, it's what they do!

It is a wee bit early to have the discussion publicly, but I agree with you OP in some respects.

feburary yes I suppose some voters will definiatley feel more secure voting for the status quo, voters who may have wavered from the torys may feel a change now may bring more insecurity.
wonderful seriously? Unbelievable.

Personally I think today the thoughts should be with the friends and families of the victims.

The politicians are not campaigning today and until further notice.

These discussions imo are for another day.

I think its naive to say that these discussions are for another day. Do those saying that not think that our politicians aren't having discussions and making plans/ policy pathways depending on what the investigations show up?
There are threads on mumsnet asking how we can stop terrorist attacks, one way of doing that is to be politically active, and that means analysing current events and our politicians responses so we can actively vote and not passively vote for the status quo as discussed out thread.

I understand the hurt is very fresh, I grew up in a culture where terrorism was rife and bombing were a weekly event, so I'll leave this thread where it is.

Strength to all those affected

It can't be random that it happened so close to the election and must've in part been planned to destabilise our political system and process.

Really? ISIS don't give a damn which political party is ruling here. They only want to cause as much pain and suffering as possible. Hence the probable reason they targeted a venue full of our children.

Not everything in life is about bloody politics! I would also argue that this has fuck all to do with religion, but that's for another day.

*The politicians are not campaigning today and until further notice.

These discussions imo are for another day.*

^^ this

If you don't think the politicians are trying to work out how to use this to their advantage you're seriously naive. Remember Jo Moore?

YANBU

And no I wouldn't be surprised this was done to destabilised the elections.
It certainly WILL have an impact, even if it wasn't done for that purpose. Those who think there will be no connexion are naive IMO.

I have also noticed that this will nicely take the spot light away from TM, her awful interview yesterday as well as her U turn on the dementia tax.
Obviously, it's not something she will have planned. But I'm sure this will be used to shift the focus away from that tricky place....

Is too early? Well maybe. But don't fool yourself that, in the different HQ, they are not all studying how to answer to that and how to turn this event to their own advantage.

Who is Jo Moore?

You mean Jo Cox, surely.

I bit ironic, given what you've posted.

I'm pleased to say its causing a backlash against the hate filled Right.

Katie Hopkins reported to police after calling for 'final solution' following terror attack

So good to see that common sense will prevail in the majority of people.

But I would thinks it's despicable to use any such tragedy, be in the terror attack or Jo Cox' murder for political reasons.

I'll agree with Piglet instead of arguing across our perceived lines today lets come together as humans and wish the best for all those suffering today no matter what nationality, colour or creed they are, I wish you all a happy day if you can have one

Look the person that did this was a demented evil nutter.
Nothing to do with our politics.
ISIS hate us all, they couldn't give a fuck whether we elect red/blue/yellow.
No legitimate party will try and steer this to their advantage because it would be despicable and also ridiculous.
No party could have prevented it either.

I don't think that this has anything to do with the election, but I do think it will bring into sharp relief corbyn and his links with the ira and his refusal to condemn. It's easy to forget who the man really is when it's not on your door step and he's promising to spend spend spend, but I think any person who remotely considered voting labour and putting a man into power who has links to terrorism would be thinking about this side to him now.

In my view, it would be remiss of rhe other parties not to remind the public of exactly who corbyn is.