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to be put off by the amount of money spent to make programs for comedy relief?

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purplemonkeydishwasher · 16/03/2007 10:02

Surely they could just put that money to good use here and abroad.

AND I'm absolutely DISGUSTED by the gluttony and drunkeness in the Fame Academy house. they are doing this for STARVING people. Get a grip on reality.

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wannaBeWhateverIWannaBe · 17/03/2007 23:15

Oh how easy it is to sit in our nice comfortable lives and decide how things should be.

?companies should pay their employees a living wage?. Of course, but at what cost? If they stop employing people in foreign countries and use people in the UK instead, they are employing UK citizens and contributing towards the increase in employment in this country, but at the same time they are taking away jobs from those who perhaps need them more, for whom that small wage helps to contribute towards feeding, clothing, educating their children, and who, without that small wage, might not live to see the next month, the next year, whose children might not survive. If they increase the wages of the staff in the countries where they are currently employing, it has potential to have a massive impact on the economy of that country. Let?s not forget that these countries are often poor countries, where the majority of the inhabitants live below the breadline, and where the majority of businesses simply can?t afford to pay their employees a decent wage. Then a big corporation comes in and starts to pay its employees way above what other companies are paying. You then create a financial divide, workers seak to go and work for the big corporations because they pay the most wages, and this leaves the little companies unable to find employees and therefore unable to trade which has an impact on the local infrastructure. It?s a bit like the big supermarkets coming in and sending the little corner shops out of business.

?governments should be providing anti retro viral drugs for aids sufferers?. Yes they should, but it goes way, way deeper than that. We can give people in Africa all the drugs they need, but this will not prevent the spread of aids, in fact it would probably exaserbate the problem. It?s about education, about cultural change. Aids is so rife in Africa because promiscuity is so rife. When a woman in Africa has a baby it is culturally acceptable for that woman?s husband to go and seak pleasure elsewhere while she is breastfeeding. It is not considered appropriate for a man to approach his wife while she is breastfeeding his young baby (first three months it is I think but could be wrong on the period of time). And so the men go off and find their pleasure elsewhere, contract HIV which they then bring back to their wives who then pass it on to the children when they are born. And safe sex is not an option because condoms are also a contraceptive, and another part of African tribal culture is that the man has to be able to father many children, and the woman has to be able to produce many children. and when condoms were brought in in the 80s and distributed free the Africans considered it a ploy from the white man to stop them ?breeding?.

You cannot fix the problem purely by throwing money at it. Many of these governments are extremely corrupt and the money would never be seen by the man on the street. And you cannot use the war in iraq as the answer to everything ?the government shouldn?t have spent all this money on the war in iraq? they did. It?s done. And they will spend money on many, many other such projects.

I don?t give a toss if a celeb gained a bit of publicity doing that. I?m sure ant and deck didn?t enjoy their trip to Africa, have you any idea what it?s like to see people starving to death? To see people living in such poverty that they don?t know if their children will survive until morning? It wasn?t a bloody jolly to the caribian, it was an insight into the third world, and if they gained a bit of publicity doing it they also gained a bloody lot of humility in the process and no doubt now are thankful they will never have to live like that.

Suzycreamcheese when you?ve been to Africa, and seen what it?s really like, then you can begin to judge those that go there to raise awareness. But until then, you have absolutely no idea, because what you see on tv doesn?t even touch the serface.

NoNoNoNO · 20/03/2007 13:58

OK, I admit, I haven't read all the posts in this thread, but I wanted to add a few things

  1. Not all "charity" giving is the same. It's not all hand-outs and unsustainable stuff. Very often it's capacity building, or empowerment of local community groups, with the aim of getting them up and runnign so they don't need support any more

  2. Having said that, sometimes before you can build capcaity, you need to feed people.

  3. Suzy's right that the choices we make about sweatshop clothes matter as much as giving to charity.

  4. smaller charities can be very focussed and effective, even if they are not as big as comic relief. That example posted by gobshite of
    Soweto Connection is a good example. If they're staffed by volunteers, you can be sure all your money is getting to work overseas. If not, they would probably grow more, and take in more money. It's a trade-off. Personally, I prefer to support the small ones.

5)I don't think anyone seriously thinks big companies care - personally I don't give a damn of they care or not, as long as their concept of corporate social responsibility drives them to give some money to people who are doing some good with it. Same with celebs and their concept of self-publicity

hannahsaunt · 20/03/2007 14:14

Again haven't read all the posts but wanted to reinforce NoNoNo's point about capacity building and focussed projects - what a joy it was to see the hospital in one of the VTs during Comic Relief - it had been built, staffed, stocked and funded on a sustainable basis because CR takes it's job very seriously and works with the local people. Not, for example, like the Swedish government who thought it would be a jolly good thing to build a hospital in Malawi because it had some cash and a hospital seemed like a noble cause - shame it wasn't costed properly because although a great big concrete box has been built, there was no money left to equip it, staff it, stock it and fund it on an ongoing basis so it's sitting there like a great big folly.

So what if it takes having a good time to persuade people to part with their cash or to have to provide entertainment to persuade people to part with their cash - it's better than not persuading them at all.

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