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lionheart · 19/05/2017 17:33

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Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 20/05/2017 16:00

Trumps previous comments on Saudi Arabia-
insider.foxnews.com/2017/05/19/john-bolton-president-trump-foreign-trip-stops-saudi-arabia-israel-more
From the article (Fox news, rather surprisingly)-
Neil Cavuto played a clip of his January 2008 interview with Trump, in which the billionaire businessman claimed U.S. foreign policy toward the Saudis is weak. Trump said that would stop if he were president.

"If I were president, you'd have $30 oil right now," Trump said. "I would call up Saudi Arabia ... and I would say, 'That f*ing price is coming down, and it's coming down now.' And you know what? They'd lower that price so quickly, and it would be so easy."

When Cavuto asked what Trump would do if they refused, he assured him, "They will."

cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 16:04

Hasn't someone in the entourage publicly dissociated 45 from anything (unfortunate) he may have said as a 'candidate'?

cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 16:07

Sorry that I can't remember the exact turn of phrase that was attempted.

Gumpendorf · 20/05/2017 16:07

Ah, Cave, I now remember a recent (in U.K.) Madam Secretary episode was about gifts too. I wonder what's happened to the Trump gifts.

Lweji · 20/05/2017 16:09

Hasn't someone in the entourage publicly dissociated 45 from anything (unfortunate) he may have said as a 'candidate'?

Except that he has been trying to build that wall, and has tried to keep Muslims out of the country.

cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 16:10

Cornerstones, Lweji. Still cornerstones. Grin

GingerIvy · 20/05/2017 16:37

He seems to be following this message:

If I promised it in the election, it doesn't count. Unless of course it means you still support me, in which case it doesn't count, but I'll pretend it counts. Until you reach the point where you don't believe it counts to me, then you are FAKE NEWS and I'll assume you're Muslim and shouldn't be in the country anyway.

Where do you live, so I can have you deported?

GingerIvy · 20/05/2017 16:41

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Saudi King Salman presents Trump with the Collar of Abdulaziz Al Saud, the nation's highest honor. For more 📸 : instagram.com/cnnpolitics

I'm sorry, but "the Collar of Abdullaziz Al Saud" ?? Has anyone researched this? I don't want to be all "not PC" and all, but it sounds like something out of Legend of Zelda. Are we sure he didn't just make it up to make Trump feel important??

GingerIvy · 20/05/2017 16:43

And what about this? This says that THIS is the highest honour, not the one Trump got.... hmmmmm

Saudi King has crowned two US Presidents
In 2008 President Bush got the order. Three days ago President Obama put this gold chain around his neck. «King Abdul Aziz Order of Merit», is the Islamic Kingdom of Saudi Arabias highest honor.

ivarfjeld.com/2009/06/06/saudi-king-has-crowned-two-us-presidents/

originalbiglymavis · 20/05/2017 16:46

It sounds all grand but it's all just a bit of bling. I'm sure he doesn't get to drive his sheep/camels over Westminster bridge or anything like that.

cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 16:49

crowned???

GingerIvy · 20/05/2017 17:12

Trita Parsi‏Verified account @tparsi 2m2 minutes ago
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The irony scale has exploded...

"Trump and Saudi Arabia join forces to fight intolerance"

originalbiglymavis · 20/05/2017 17:13

Pot and kettle join forces against grimy bottomed pans.

GingerIvy · 20/05/2017 17:13

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#BREAKING Saudi, US sign deals 'in excess of $380 bln': Saudi FM

originalbiglymavis · 20/05/2017 17:17

Any mentions on travel bans, human rights, women's rights, foreign workers rights, extradition policies, the million or so princes who seem to have carte blanche to so whatever they want to whoever they please, exported terrorism...

GingerIvy · 20/05/2017 17:22

Rogue WH Snr Advisor‏ @RogueSNRadvisor 44s44 seconds ago
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Pres says he could "see himself retiring to Saudi Arabia" one day. Loves the "culture and hotels."

GingerIvy · 20/05/2017 17:23

CBS News‏Verified account @CBSNews 3m3 minutes ago
Many of the armaments in U.S.-Saudi deal will help Saudi strikes in Yemen "be more precise," Sec. Tillerson says: cbsn.ws/1UJwwDb pic.twitter.com/aGYz1WM2yy

GingerIvy · 20/05/2017 17:25

John Aravosis‏Verified account @aravosis 29m29 minutes ago
Trump just curtsied to the Saudi King
americablog.com/2017/05/trump-just-curtsied-saudi-king.html … via @AMERICAblog pic.twitter.com/peAnnbhn8l

Sorry, but had to Grin at this.

originalbiglymavis · 20/05/2017 17:26

I can see him saying the sane everywhere ^oh I can definitely see myself retiring to Saudi Arabia/Italy/UK(god forbid)/Korea... sooky sooky".

I can just hear Mrs iq45 saying 'over my dead body'.

Roussette · 20/05/2017 17:29

I'm sorry, but "the Collar of Abdullaziz Al Saud" ?? Has anyone researched this? I don't want to be all "not PC" and all, but it sounds like something out of Legend of Zelda. Are we sure he didn't just make it up to make Trump feel important??

Yes, I'd say so!

He should have called it "the Trumpius Collar of Abdullah Trumpdom".

Trouble is DT would believe it

Haha on wanting to retire there... jog on Trumpy, make that early! Does he know anything about anything? Is he a supporter of Sharia Law then??? It is the strictest of the strict adherence there and they behead more foreigners than they do their own each year and Sharia law is the only religion out there. But hey Trump.... off you go... he is a grade 1 arse isn't he..

AcrossthePond55 · 20/05/2017 17:32

Gumpendorf & those interested:

www.state.gov/s/cpr/c29447.htm

there are links by year to gifts and the dispositions thereof.

cozietoesie · 20/05/2017 17:37

Last night on Bill Maher's show. Warning to Pence fans - he's not too kind about him.Wink

AcrossthePond55 · 20/05/2017 17:40

Federal employees (including the Pres) are forbidden to accept gifts other than those 'of nominal value'.

The medal will have to go to the National Archives. I'll bet it'll be taken with Donnie holding on to the chain being dragged kicking and screaming like a toddler "but it's MINE!!!".

For further edification, this pertains to the Pres and high ranking officials. The rules for the rank and file Govt employee is, naturally, very different:

ethics.od.nih.gov/topics/giftforn.htm

GingerIvy · 20/05/2017 17:41

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Qasim Rashid, Esq. Retweeted The Spectator Index
For the cost to eradicate world hunger 12 times over, they're spending money on war that will kill civilians 100 times over. #smhQasim Rashid, Esq. added,
The Spectator Index @spectatorindex
BREAKING: United States and Saudi Arabia agree on arms deal worth $350 billion over next ten years

Qasim Rashid, Esq.‏ @MuslimIQ 50m50 minutes ago
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Replying to @MuslimIQ
You can't say "I'm banning muslims until we figure out WTH is going on" while your $350B arms trade kills civilians

YOU are what's going on

I've heard the far right rightly condemn oppression of women, atheists, & minorities in Saudi.

Amazing how a $350B Arms sale silences them.

GingerIvy · 20/05/2017 17:42

Philip Rucker‏Verified account @PhilipRucker 10h10 hours ago
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Trump getting an elaborate welcome in Riyadh. Hard to overstate. His portrait is all over town & projected on exterior of his luxury hotel.

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