One rule for the privileged posh and another for the plebs (Oxford student who stabbed boyfriend)

[VladmirsPoutine]

I went to Oxbridge but this story still rankles me. A med student at Oxford gets out of sentencing (for now) because she has a promising career ahead of her. What she did to her ex constitutes as a crime. But lo and behold the judge found at least for now in her favour.

Had this been some of the girls and boys I grew up with no shadow of a doubt they'd now be in custody.

www.itv.com/news/2017-05-17/oxford-student-who-stabbed-boyfriend-could-avoid-jail/

Then why the sarcasm over greggs

If you weren't privileged then why have you assumed she is

Vladmir I'm confused - are you saying that the girl is privileged or not? And what does the fact that you're an Oxbridge graduate have to do with this?

Did you post this in AIBU because you're annoyed by the cliché that only privileged people go to Oxbridge?

She is privileged. Privileged to fuck at that.

My Oxford, Cambridge degrees having nothing to do with her case but it stands to reason.
Had she been your typical run of the mill girl - she'd be in custody right this minute. Not everyone that ends up at Oxbridge is privileged but it'd be quite something if the majority were not.

I have never in real life heard anyone refer to themselves as an "Oxbridge graduate".........

How many threads are needed on this? Those complaining a man would have been sent to prison for the same know nothing of the law and really should read the Secret Barrister link provided.

This is not rare. This is quite standard in a situation exactly like this. It's completely fair enough to feel that's wrong but to make out it's to do with sex (or background) is ridiculous. There are so many men who are let off without custodial sentences for domestic violence (not only first offences either) for many reasons, not least potential damage to their careers. Only recently a man was spared prison for domestic violence because the judge thought he'd be more likely to attack women in future after a custodial sentence as it'd mean he'd lose his job and so be more likely to re-offend.

The fact is - this is all sorts of privilege working to their ends.

Had she been of a darker, male, lesser educated persuasion - yes the news would still have reported but no - she would not currently be free to walk to streets.

worridmum
If it was a male commiting the crime and the victim was female there would be zero chance from him to avoid jail

What if she forced him to drink bleach? Violent men avoid jail all the time. I dont agree with it. and I dont think her defense holds water any more than a sporting contract should.

"Had she been your typical run of the mill girl - she'd be in custody right this minute. "

Deferred sentences are not uncommon.

I was outraged at this at first. I mentioned it to DH. He asked if it was her first offence. I said yes, he said quite normal.

He follows local news very closely, and he said it's unusual for first offenders to have a custodial sentence. More likely a suspended sentence.

I think in the wider scheme of things, no matter what sex, colour, class...I somehow thought all stabbing/GBH/ABH resulted in jail time. But they don't.

Prejudice is alive and well everywhere though. Even I admit to thinking she was privileged going to Oxford

BertrandRussell Good for me then that this is an online forum in which I don't have to reveal my degrees to you.

No. Hovever, I've just noticed that you have degrees from both institutions. Very impressive.

As others have also pointed out, this is only making news because the perpetrator is 1) A woman and 2) At Oxford. You won't often read about all the men spared custodial sentences (not that she actually has been yet) for domestic violence because it's happening daily. It's not notable at all.

Had she been of a darker, male, lesser educated persuasion - yes the news would still have reported but no - she would not currently be free to walk to streets.

1. No it wouldn't
2. Yes s/he would

I do wish people would read about the law and sentencing guidelines or just do a semblance of research before posting complete fiction they've conjured up in their own minds.

Bert Yes - it's not that odd for us. Bachelor's from one institution then MA from the other - you can't after all apply to both at UCAS level.

Playing fast and loose with the word 'fact' there OP...

If you've got degrees from two of the world's top universities you must have learnt how to do a bit of research and back up your arguments with evidence from them - I take it posting about this case must be your time off.

Vladmir I still don't understand - what I've understood from your latest post is that the fact that this student is white and Oxford-educated means that she is privileged. Is this what you mean? If that's what you mean, I don't agree, and I think that's a really strange assumption to make. Especially considering, as you've rightly said yourself, that people don't have to be privileged to go to Oxford or Cambridge.

I think she deserves to
Have a custodial sentence. She stabbed him. I'd say the same if it was a man.
If it ruins her career so be it.

There was a thread on here recently by a woman who stole her flatmate's bank card and withdrew down money over a couple of days. She was studying to be a teacher, now can't ever get a job with a conviction. Everyone said she deserved it and they wouldn't want their kids taught by a thief.

Here is a drug addict committing a violent crime and hey ho, she'll make a brilliant surgeon? Like fuck she will. She tests well and writes great papers. Hardly a great surgeon in the making.

Here is a drug addict committing a violent crime and hey ho, she'll make a brilliant surgeon?

Where does it say that on this thread?

Or is it in the paper? I havent read the article yet

Must do it now

Ooh i see what you mean troll

thats the judge though...they dont half come out with some weird comments sometimes

A couple of years undetected crime post graduation and a fistful of fivers gets you an Oxford MA...

Here is a drug addict committing a violent crime and hey ho, she'll make a brilliant surgeon? Like fuck she will. She tests well and writes great papers. Hardly a great surgeon in the making.

Yes I must admit what struck me about this was the judge saying that a custodial sentence could harm her future career and prevent her being a surgeon; but surely the fact that she is / was a drug addict might already call her suitability for this profession in to question.

Here is a drug addict committing a violent crime and hey ho, she'll make a brilliant surgeon? Like fuck she will. She tests well and writes great papers. Hardly a great surgeon in the making.
Yes! She's the one whose ruined her career by taking drugs and being a thug!

As I said on the other thread, if she has pleaded guilty to a violent crime, she is unlikely to be able to register as a doctor and practice medicine.