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To ask for somebody who is good at explaining things simply to explain the election.

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hellokittymania · 15/05/2017 12:51

I don't understand anything! For example who and what are we voting for? What does each person want to do if they get elected? Who is Corbin is he good or bad? Please help me to understand what is going on. I really want to vote but I don't understand things

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LadyGlitterSparklesSeriously · 15/05/2017 13:57

Yes, the Tories are the Conservatives.

That's the basic definition of Tax credits, yes. Unless they earn too much to qualify.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/05/2017 13:58

Yes, the Tories are the Conservatives.

Child tax credits are a top up for working people on lower incomes who have children. There is also child benefit, which used to be for everyone with children, but is now also only paid to lower income households.

Hope that's correct. My children are adults now so haven't had any benefits for them in a long time.

hellokittymania · 15/05/2017 13:58

Macaroni thank you! I will go and subscribe to it.

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Orlantina · 15/05/2017 14:01

hellokitty

You might be better off talking about what things are important to you. Do you think we should have a low tax economy, which helps stimulate economic growth as low taxes lead to higher spending and that helps the economy - and economic growth leads to improved tax returns to the Government to spend on public services? But if growth is poor, then public services face cuts

Or do you think we should have higher taxes so that public services get adequate funding - but people may not want to pay higher taxes and higher taxes may lead to less spending and growth in the economy?

hellokittymania · 15/05/2017 14:11

I'm listening to that podcast macaroni :)

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giantpurplepeopleeater · 15/05/2017 14:16

This is actually pretty good: www.parliament.uk/about/how/elections-and-voting/general/

hellokittymania · 15/05/2017 14:18

OK and it was labor who was against brexit correct?

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JustAnotherSilentOldNumber · 15/05/2017 14:20

yes but so was Theresa May

Orlantina · 15/05/2017 14:21

MPs are supposed to follow the wishes of their party. However, sometimes they may want to go against the wishes of their party despite being ordered to vote in a particular way.

This is called being whipped. The degree of consequences depends on the importance of the vote. A 3 line whip is very serious. Some local MPs are very good at defying 'management' and do what they think is the right thing.

www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/principal/whips/

Orlantina · 15/05/2017 14:23

OK and it was labor who was against brexit correct

Not really. There were politicians from ALL sides who were both for and against Brexit

Some people believe that Theresa May called the election because there were Tory MPs who lived in Remain constituencies and who were not totally behind her approach to Brexit. She had a small majority in Parliament so she would have struggled to get some stuff through.

Believeitornot · 15/05/2017 14:28

If someone doesn't even understand what this election is for then what is unreasonable about suggesting they don't vote?

Because the election is still weeks away Hmm

hellokittymania · 15/05/2017 14:30

Just taking a wild guess but is it the conservative party who Are opposing the tax on the rich? For example if I'm earning 90,000 pounds conservative say I shouldn't have to pay extra income tax. Labor on the other hand say you say you should, and the tax can be used to help build the hospital.

If on the other hand I'm a single parent who earns 24,000 pounds and needs child tax credit to help by my child's uniform It's the Labour Party who would be best. I think of confuse this.

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RoastedPotato · 15/05/2017 14:31

I know I am probably going to get called dreadful names for this, but I genuinely believe that everyone should pass some sort of basic political awareness test before being allowed to vote.

Februaryjones · 15/05/2017 14:31

Are you a millionaire?

If yes, knock yourself out voting Tory.

If not, may I suggest Labour.

hellokittymania · 15/05/2017 14:32

And my thinking is if you're a single mom on a low income, having access to the NHS and child tax credit would be helpful. But if you're on a low income, do you still have to pay higher taxes?

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Believeitornot · 15/05/2017 14:34

If someone doesn't even understand what this election is for then what is unreasonable about suggesting they don't vote?

Because the election is weeks away and the OP is asking for info Hmm

MGwynzy · 15/05/2017 14:36

My view is that because we are leaving Europe we are going to be in a difficult position for many years. Europe will not want to trade with us. Countries outside of Europe will find it easier to deal with Europe than with us. So as a Country we will be having less money to spend.

A very big part of Government is to ensure that we earn enough money as a Country to ensure a good standard of living for all it Citizens. The next function of Government is to decide how the money is distributed.
This is a very broad brush but,

Labour Party says , ordinary people earn the money, it should go mostly to those. Workers rights, NHS and the disadvantaged need the most of the money.

Conservative Party says Businesses and high earners make the money and we should support them. Otherwise there are no jobs.

I think it is hard to decide how to vote, all parties seem to break their promises once elected.

LadyGlitterSparklesSeriously · 15/05/2017 14:37

No, you won't pay high tax if you're a single parent on a low income.

LadyGlitterSparklesSeriously · 15/05/2017 14:39

Personally, I'm of the opinion that if you're a single mother on a low wage who relies on tax credits and the NHS, your vote belongs with Labour.

But you need to make up your own mind by reading the manifestos, and perhaps looking into the voting record of both parties.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 15/05/2017 14:40

If you haven't received a pollcard you may not be registered

Not all polling cards have gone out yet. We've not had ours yet.

hellokittymania · 15/05/2017 14:40

What's best for small businesses, or people who are self-employed or sole traders?

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 15/05/2017 14:41

OK and it was labor who was against brexit correct?

They were but now that the vote has happened they have agreed to abide by the result and leave the EU.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 15/05/2017 14:42

What's best for small businesses, or people who are self-employed or sole traders?

Until the manifestos are out with full costings we won't know.

Orlantina · 15/05/2017 14:42

What's best for small businesses, or people who are self-employed or sole traders

Depends on whether you think of yourself or others...

hellokittymania · 15/05/2017 14:43

I'm giving examples here by the way I was I want to check if my understanding is correct. :)

I went on labor's website to see what was there and if they had any basic info, but it's either join the party or something else unhelpful

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