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To ask for somebody who is good at explaining things simply to explain the election.

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hellokittymania · 15/05/2017 12:51

I don't understand anything! For example who and what are we voting for? What does each person want to do if they get elected? Who is Corbin is he good or bad? Please help me to understand what is going on. I really want to vote but I don't understand things

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squishysquirmy · 15/05/2017 13:23

No-one here can tell you which party to vote for, because we all have our own opinions and cannot give you objective advice. You have to spend some time investigating it for yourself, I'm afraid, but it needn't be too onerous!
Read up on what the parties are saying, but also be aware of the bias that certain papers, websites etc might have. Looking at election coverage in both the Guardian and Telegraph will give you more balance than just looking at one. (I personally wouldn't bother with what the tabloids are saying, because they are full of crap). The BBC has some useful resources, and is more trustworthy than many other media outlets.
What are the issues that matter most to you?
Look up the manifestos online, and see which you most agree with, but be aware that both parties will word them in a way that sounds fantastic. Look at the candidates standing in your area, and think about how good they will be at standing up for you.
Finally, consider how your area voted in the last GE (is it a safe seat, or a marginal?), and decide whether you want to vote tactically or not. EG, if your preferred party has no chance of being elected in your area, you might want to switch your vote to another party to prevent someone you hate getting in.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2017

ExplodedCloud · 15/05/2017 13:24

Have you had a polling card? Are you registered to vote at your current address?

jellyfrizz · 15/05/2017 13:26

Simple Politics on Facebook is good.

Believeitornot · 15/05/2017 13:26

Get out and vote.

Ignore the intellectual snobs who think that only certain types can vote. You have the right yo vote.

The general election is a vote for which political party will govern the country.

It isn't a vote for an individual prime minister - the prime minister is whoever happens to be the leader.

You're voting for a Member of Parliament (MP) for your area or "constituency". That MP can represent a political party (be it the conservatives, Labour, lib dems etc) or they can be "independent". Whoever gets the most votes becomes your local MP.

Who governs the country depends on the majority of MPs. So which ever party gets the most MPs overall. At the moment, the Tories have the most MPs and Theresa May is the prime minister because her party chose her. She wasn't elected by the country and technically never can be elected as Prime Minister.

Vote based on past history and whether you like the policies. Although, to be honest policy promises made now may not be followed through.

isithotinhereorisitjustme · 15/05/2017 13:27

This is quite useful www.voteforpolicies.org.uk/ and also this one uk.isidewith.com/political-quiz in terms of working out who you think would best represent you.

jellyfrizz · 15/05/2017 13:27

Oh, it's not just on Facebook: www.simplepolitics.co.uk/

harderandharder2breathe · 15/05/2017 13:27

The OP is better than people who blindly vote without thinking about it.

Once all the manifestos are out I'd expect the BBC to have s guide to who is saying what

isithotinhereorisitjustme · 15/05/2017 13:28

although the vote for policies one is not quite up to date - sorry. I should have checked first, but it is working on it

squishysquirmy · 15/05/2017 13:29

Just in case:
www.gov.uk/register-to-vote

Ignore people having a go at you for being uninformed, etc. You are trying to inform yourself now- that is the main thing!
I reckon that there are loads of people who know less than you do, yet think they know a lot.
Being self aware enough to recognise what we don't know is a very important quality.
Good luck, whichever way you decide to vote.

Goldfishjane · 15/05/2017 13:29

harder "The OP is better than people who blindly vote without thinking about it."

Kitty said she voted in the Mayoral election based on what people she knew were saying but she didn't know much about it.

wasonthelist · 15/05/2017 13:29

Unbiased information is hard to find OP

We are having a general election in June. This means that we each vote in our own location (called a constituency) for an MP to represent us in the House of Commons.

Most candidates who are standing for election in each constituency will be standing for a political party - the major ones are Conservatives (currently in power), Labour and the Lib Dems.

Whoever gets the most votes in your constituency will be the MP and will represent your area. Anyone who didn't vote for them effectively has their vote ignored - this is called the "first past the post" system and we are one of very few countries still using it.

Whichever party gets the most MPs in parliament will have the best chance to be the government, but if (as often but not always happens) one party gets enough MPs to be able to outvote all the others, they will definitely be the party in charge.

Corbyn is the leader of the Labour Party and will be the next prime minister if Labour win - Teresa May is leader of the Conservative Party and will be prime minister if they win. You cannot directly vote for either of these leaders unless you happen to live in the constituency they represent.

Believeitornot · 15/05/2017 13:30

guide to politics

JennyjENjENJenny · 15/05/2017 13:31

If i remember correctly you've spent many years in China until recently op?

I can understand how coming to a country with a different political system can cause a lot of trouble and confusion.

However i'm not sure anyone can give you a brief overview, it's something you have to look in to and find out how to vote yourself.

Believeitornot · 15/05/2017 13:32

check who your local MP is

hellokittymania · 15/05/2017 13:32

LadyGlitter is there somewhere on the BBC bite-size fight that lists each party and then explains what it does? When I went on to the political attitudes section it lists the parties but doesn't explain about them.

I asked about how to register on here a few days ago and someone said you need to register every year. So I will do that.

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hellokittymania · 15/05/2017 13:37

List, thank you so much! When do the manifestoes come out usually?

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jellyfrizz · 15/05/2017 13:39

hellokitty this gives a brief overview

www.simplepolitics.co.uk/questions-and-answers/who-are-the-parties-and-what-do-they-stand-for

Letmesleepalready · 15/05/2017 13:40

Deadline to register is 22/05 so do it asap!

squishysquirmy · 15/05/2017 13:46

The three main parties are the Conservatives, Labour and the Lib-Dems. The Conservatives and Labour are the most powerful, but there may also be other parties or independent candidates standing in your area.

Check each manifesto once they are launched to see what their policies are.
The Labour one was due to be launched tomorrow, but was leaked early so we have a good idea of what will probably be in it: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39877439

The Conservative manifesto will also be published very soon, and the liberal Democrat manifesto will be published on Wednesday.

LadyGlitterSparklesSeriously · 15/05/2017 13:50

If you haven't received a pollcard you may not be registered, you can do that by clicking here and following the steps. Register to vote.

Like wason says, it's very difficult to find unbiased information from newspapers and media outlets. They will almost always put a slant on the articles they publish. It is best to wait until the manifesto of each party to be published.

The manifestos are likely to be released any day now, keep an eye out for them in the news but go directly to their website to read them, if you can.

Trampire · 15/05/2017 13:51

Good for you OP for attempting to find out. I don't mean this at all sarcastically but try the BBC newround website and links from it. It's aimed at children, however I find it often gets to the bare nub of things.

www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/32206370

hellokittymania · 15/05/2017 13:52

OK, and who are the Tories? Is that a nickname for the conservative?

Also can somebody please explain what child tax credit are? My understanding is that if a person has two children, they are given a certain amount of money per week to support their children?

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LadyPW · 15/05/2017 13:53

If someone doesn't even understand what this election is for then what is unreasonable about suggesting they don't vote? Do people really want the future of this country decided by people who have zero clue (by their own admission) about it?! I may be blunt but its true. And this isn't the first thread started by someone claiming they don't know who to vote for - whatever happened to doing some research and not just relying on a complete stranger on an internet forum that's filled by people who seem unable to make a decision on everyday life themselves (people with genuine needs / problems or needing support in a difficult time not withstanding)
Reading the main news-sites would be the obvious starting point surely, not Mumsnet?!

macaronip1e · 15/05/2017 13:54

Aside from the election itself, if you're also interested in how the parliament works there is a podcast "Parliament Explianed" that - in a simple and neutral way - explains what parliament is, how it works and what it does.

JustAnotherSilentOldNumber · 15/05/2017 13:56

people with genuine needs / problems or needing support in a difficult time not withstanding)

You deliberately missed that the OP is visually impaired and hasn't lived through a UK general election before.

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