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AIBU?

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to cut ties with this woman

114 replies

bungle99 · 15/05/2017 09:53

In one of my group of friends, there's one woman called C. I used to be friends with her but she became judgmental, overly critical and can be quite controlling so i backed off. She's one of those people who think anyone who does things differently to her is wrong.
I have another friend called A in the same group. She's a really good friend. She also backed away from C due to her being critical but is now friends with her again. This is fine.
We all go out for drinks plus a few others. If C is in a good mood I have a nice evening.
She usually gets in one sarcastic comment e.g. i didn't have the right change for the whip so telling me i've only just arrived and i'm already being annoying and then laughing at me. I do get annoyed, and try to avoid her if she starts like this.
Her DH and my DH have also become friends over last few years but they go out separately. They met through us.
A while ago, we were out. As soon as she came in she was being sarcastic towards me. I have child who's been in and out of hospital, having invasive tests, and has been diagnosed with ulcers in gastro tract. She also has child with allergies but is diet controlled and never had tests. I brought up the subject and she rolled her eyes about and said sarcastically and loudly "oh right! we're going to start talking about THAT again!" I was pretty taken aback and hurt. Yes i do talk about it a lot but it's such a huge thing in my life that it's all i think about and was just looking for some support.

Later on i (stupidly) mentioned that DC was now on gluten free diet and she condescendingly said "i bet you wished you 'd put him on a gluten free diet when i told you to!!" I got pretty pissed off and told her that she's not a medical professional and that I only follow the advice of my childs medical team.
She then continued with her sarcasm throughout the evening, including having a dig about a couple and specifying their race and nodding toward me (same race me).
Also criticised my use of facebook and asked why i anyone needed to know what i'd put on facebook. I've now stopped putting anything on there.
She indicated that she was not happy that her DH was going out with my DH the week after (i'd bought tickets for something for DH's birthday) so according to her DH she decided to plan something on the same day (at the last minute) so he would have come back early to look after kids. Her DH told my DH she does this kind of thing all the time as it seems she doesn't like him going out.

I suspect the whole reason for her evening of vitriol was because she was not happy that i had organised a day out for her DH/my DH as a birthday present, despite me getting her permission months on advance. The only reason i asked her DH is because she had bought tickets for her DH for his birthday previously, and he took my DH to it. So i was trying to be fair and return a trip out.

I've not wanted to go out with this group again because of C. So i've avoided it, but friend A, who admits she was out of order but think's i'm overreacting, just wont let it go and wants me to go out with the group. So after alot of pestering, I went out with them, but i decided to speak as little as possible to avoid C sarcasm. C still managed to get very small dig in even though i said very little. It was very obvious that i didn't want to be there.
I really think it's time for me to say to A that i'm not going out with them ? I just think sometimes that you have to accept that you dont get on with someone. AIBU ? I can still see A on her own.

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gamerchick · 15/05/2017 12:33

@gamerchick I've done that. I have two facebooks. One with my in-laws on and my real one. I couldn't stand the snippy comments every time I posted anything.
It was awkward when they found out about the second one (which was inevitable really) but I just explained that it was my adult friends only on it and no family not even my own parents and it was made for FB games only so I could just give myself candy crush lives!

Ooo crafty! I like it Grin

TheLegendOfBeans · 15/05/2017 12:34

Plus if A gets funny then - sad as it is - you may have to distance yourself from her too.

I'm sorry this is happening to you, it hurts Flowers

raisedbyguineapigs · 15/05/2017 12:38

If you're subconsciously racist, you are racist. Doesn't sound like she's too subconscoius about it though. If someone said something racist or said something about my child and my friends didn't pick it up and say something, Id think they weren't really my friends either. Who has the time, money or energy to spend time with people so horrendous? Your DH is happy to end his friendship with her DH over this, so ditch her without a second glance.

bungle99 · 15/05/2017 12:39

TheLegend
Thank you. i dropped her C few years ago but then A started these group drinks, insisting I come, despite my protestations. For a couple of years after me and C got on ok at these group drinks, but then it deteriorated, so it's time to leave it again.

I'm not sad. I'm relieved to be letting go. As someone said earlier, it like a weight lifting.

Enough of you have said I have every right to say I dont want to go. I wont make a big deal out of it and say i'm, pissed off with C. I'll just not reply to the invite asking for dates when I am free. Someone else does this and no one asks why she has not replied.

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Sexstarvedredhead · 15/05/2017 12:44

Thanks to MN I tried the hard stare. Bitch in my life cuts into the conversation with "hysterical" quip about my not wearing make up. I turned. Looked her right in the eye. Gave her the Paddington Bear stare. Turned back to my conversation (she shut up for a bit thank you mn). When she did interrupted later in the evening I gave her a PA head tilt and "are you OK?". Apparently she doesn't think I gel with her now. Gosh. What a shame.

bungle99 · 15/05/2017 12:47

what is a PA head tilt sex?

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TheMysteriousJackelope · 15/05/2017 13:06

YANBU. Does A understand that the group drinks are just not fun for you at all as you are waiting for the next nasty comment from C? It's a huge waste of time and money. You are not over-reacting. Only a fool would want to spend hours a month with someone who is overtly rude to them. Why should you spend your evenings in passive aggressive wars with this woman? She is like this down to her bones, you can't change her, it'll come out eventually unless you are continually down on her, and who wants to spend their free time like that?

I'd make a real effort to get together with your friend group without C though. Maybe organize things with one or two of the group at a time, so it isn't so obvious that you are cutting C out.

I had a similar situation with a women similar to C. The neighborhood once a month card games ended shortly after she started attending. People just met up without her in smaller groups. Adults can choose who they socialize with.

MrsArthurShappey · 15/05/2017 13:09

If you do go out with them again and she says something, you could look at your watch and say 'ooh you've beaten your own record there, bitchy comment at 8:03' or misquoting her 'you've only just arrived and you're already being an annoying bitch' and then laugh at her, because obviously YOU'RE ONLY JOKING JEEZ LIGHTEN UP. You absolutely need to play her at her own game even if you're really hurt! She sounds unbearable.

bungle99 · 15/05/2017 13:16

MrsArthurShappey
yes it has occurred to me that I should play her at her own game and i am capable of it and have had to do it before to similar types of people. But i think if i need to be like that to deal with an evening out, then it's not worth going to. I just don't want to have to be like that. I want to be excited about my evening out not dreading it. And that's how it will be now - i will always be dreading it. I just dont even want to look at her and i didn't. I basically blanked her as much as possible. This is not the way i want to be. So i need to leave it.
I really think A will try to persuade me to go but i will be firm and she will be fine about seeing me seperately.

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SoleBizzz · 15/05/2017 13:28

You seem lovely. C is for insecure Cunt.
I wonder whether A likes you there because you take the focus off her. Cunt issues put down to you instead.

It's difficult as this is your friendship group. Honestly your mental health is worth preserving instead.

bungle99 · 15/05/2017 13:42

solebizzz thank you. Thats very kind of you.

Alot of people have said A may want me there to be a punch bag. I really don't think this is the case. A is so lovely. She has become a very good friend and supported me through incredibly tough times.
I think A just doesn't think i should miss out on some fun cos of C.
And she just thinks that C is very blunt. I am not the only one that C is mean too.
But i really don't feel like i am missing anything. It's not fun for me anymore. I actually dread C's company.

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GabsAlot · 15/05/2017 13:48

silly cow

and im feed up of oh i think they havee asd-like that excuses evry single thing

shes a racist and not a very nice person so no yanbu

TheMysteriousJackelope · 15/05/2017 15:33

Make sure you tell A what you posted just above. She thinks you are missing out on fun, explain that you are missing out on stress and annoyance both anticipating the evening, during it, and the following days when the all the subtle little digs finally get noticed and added up.

The lady in my earlier post launched into me the first and second time I met her. I didn't say anything because gossip is rife where I live and any confrontation would be news fodder for a five mile radius for weeks after (everyone having DC at the same school and going to the same large church). It would have been like mud wrestling a pig, we'd both get dirty and the pig enjoys it. I avoided her because I didn't want a bunch of Desperate Housewives type melodrama just because some woman doesn't know how to be behave in public. Apparently I wasn't the only one.

bungle99 · 15/05/2017 15:39

mysterious yes i will explain thanks.

I will say that i don't want this to get back to C as i don't want a resolution or to cause a melodrama resulting in a lot of gossip. There's no need. I just want to be out of it.

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bungle99 · 15/05/2017 15:43

Mysterious
i also agree that she is down this like to her bones. Even if she did find out and apologise, it would only happen again later on down the line as this is what she's like.
When i get annoyed she retreats and sits there laughing quietly, but doesn't stop her from doing it again and again. She enjoys it. Like a game for her.

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Aeroflotgirl · 15/05/2017 16:08

Meet up with the other separately without C, seems like people keep making excuses for her nasty behaviour.

BigGrannyPants · 15/05/2017 17:13

@bungle99 you said someone else already doesn't reply to the texts for dates they are free and no one asks questions. Perhaps this person also doesn't like C's attitude. Maybe you and this person should go out instead Grin

bungle99 · 15/05/2017 18:23

biggranny
lol, as much as I would like to think that about the other person, its more likely that she now lives too far away from us.
It will look a bit weird that I don't go at first but I reckon they will get used to it quickly.

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ddssdd · 15/05/2017 18:32

Don't give her anymore power. She does it because she can.

ddssdd · 15/05/2017 18:41

Why doesn't A stick up for you? I think because A is enjoying the 'entertainment' that C is Causing.

That's why she badgers you to go, even though you protest.

A probably knows that she'd be in the firing line if you were absent. They are humiliating you.

Next time she asks for a date tell her:

C U N Tuesday Angry

bungle99 · 15/05/2017 19:05

Friend A either wasn't there when she said it or didn't hear it (we were in crowded , loud bar). Therefore couldn't really stick up for me.

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UserThenLotsOfNumbers · 15/05/2017 19:15

Dump Friend C

Siwdmae · 15/05/2017 19:32

I'd be tempted to do one last night out, just so the first every time bitch face made a comment, I would turn round and say 'Why don't you just give it a fucking rest, luv!' because I can be extremely verbally aggressive. It's disappointing that A is not defending you.

bungle99 · 15/05/2017 20:50

A doesn't witness it so she can't really defend me

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stopfuckingshoutingatme · 15/05/2017 21:06

Don't waste another second of your life with her. She's a cunt

God I love MN sometimes . This

Friend a want to keep the status quo but tough titties and say