Garden trampolines. I expect most will think IABU.

[jamdonut]

Totally fed up. Next door have a trampoline which ( it seems) is in constant use ( or rather, whenever I am at home it is).

I have a nice , garden . Ex Local authority, so on an estate. I'd like to sit and relax in it, but all you can hear is the sound of squeaky springs, usually accompanied by kids screaming, or, teenagers who bounce so high you can see them over our fence. (Most of these kids do not live at the house, it seems the whole neighbourhood visits to use their garden [ hmm] )
I'm all for kids having fun, but in small gardens, is it fair to subject your neighbours to the accompanied noise/ inconvenience caused?

If you've got the sort of garden that is big enough to not overlook anyone else, all well and good, but I feel like I'm going to have nervous breakdown if I have to put up with this noise or the sight of shirtless teens above my fence any longer. It's like torture.

My neighbours are not the kind of people you can just " have a word with", either.( We lived here 8 years with no problems, before they were moved in 5 years ago)

I just wondered what the consensus of opinion is - am I actually unreasonable or have I turned into a miserable ' old' person? ( My own kids are 17, 20 and 24...but I would never have allowed them to annoy the neighbours like this).

'I have two children on the spectrum who find noise extremely difficult to deal and yes, it's like torture for them. '

Well, I have a child on the spectrum, too, and I also have PTSD and noise causes a lot of problems for him and me, but you know what? We cannot expect the rest of the world to not engage in what society considers 'reasonable living' because of our conditions.

MabelFurball

Hahahahaha

I'd rather hear kids screaming and shouting and laughing than kids being told to stfu and parents arguing. I endured the latter for a few years. It is annoying, but there is little you can do except confront the issue.

they're not breaking any laws using their garden to play in. Sorry.

I disagree with this. If they are constantly popping up over your fence so are able to see into your garden, it is intrusion on your private space. It is probably a nuisance in law or breach of quiet enjoyment or harassment or something like that. Plus the repeated spring squeaking noise could be a nuisance in law.

If you can afford it and have an appetite for it, you could go and see a solicitor who deals with nuisance and neighbour type disputes.

I'd start by speaking to the neighbours though - even though you say you can't speak to them, I'd try - even drop them a polite note.

The OP has the right to sit in her garden some of the time in peace surely?

Well of course. But the Neighbours DCs also have the right to go and play on their trampoline in their garden.

I've just seen that my neighbour is hearing up for another party tonight, so I've took my hearing aid out, no I shouldn't have to but its easier than being driven insane by it on an amplified mode.

I am also secretly hoping it absolutely pisses it down before the party starts.

It is probably a nuisance in law or breach of quiet enjoyment or harassment or something like that

If playing on a trampoline is a nuisance in law the courts would have nothing else to do with their time!

I'm not asking for them to banned or anything, just a little thought and restraint ...for anything that goes on in gardens! Whether that be the use of machinery, music playing ( that's another problem from next door) to dogs barking ( I have a dog... If she barks too much in the garden I get her to stop or send her inside till she's forgotten about it) . And barbecues...a bit of thought, please! We have one, but we dont use it every single day in summer, and we think about where we put it to minimise the smoke annoying people...unlike some people who just don't care .
Perhaps I should stop caring that what I do might bother others?

Put up a washing line parallel with the fence. Hang sheets on it, constantly. Or 'air' a couple of tarpaulins there. Privacy restored.
Learn to enjoy the 'noises off'.

All will be well.

'It is probably a nuisance in law or breach of quiet enjoyment or harassment or something like that. Plus the repeated spring squeaking noise could be a nuisance in law.'

Haahaa! You'd have to prove they were on it pretty constantly for that to be so. We have a neighbour who is officially branded a nuisance by our HA - he threatened us with physical assault twice, sworn at us on camera, made up false noise complaints about us, that sort of thing.

I found this useful advice on a legal site:

www.justanswer.com/uk-property-law/3drpg-neighbours-sides-large-garden-trampolines-right.html?rpt=1022

It seems that trampolines can indeed constitute a legal nuisance. They account for an extraordinary number of neighbour disputes so you are not alone. And I sympathise!! My lovely neighbours have had a trampoline for the last 7 years. Every year, I hope their children will have grown bored of it. It is right next to my kitchen wall which seems to act like a resonance drum and if I am in the kitchen it is like someone is hammering on the wall (for hours). My neighbours are so sweet, and my own children used to play out when they were young and made plenty of noise, so I have never had the heart to mention it but I suspect they would be mortified. As mentioned earlier, I just keep hoping the children will grow out of it. It's not the same as just hearing children play btw. There is a quality to the sound that is completely jarring.

And if you open a neighbour dispute on that level, you'll need to disclose it when you go to sell the house.

Are trampolines the new conifers?

Well, I do understand that it's a bit annoying.

But it is their garden and they are simply children having fun.

I don't think there's anything you can do about it... Neighbour disputes are really awful.

No styledilemma they're the new Leylandi

Allegedly An EA told our arsey neighbour to get rid of their trampoline as it looks chavvy and wouldn't sell. She's replaced it with something more pleasing to the eye and still cant sell. I'm sure that's got nothing to do with the fact no one in their right mind would live here willingly if you paid them! 😂

We all just have to learn to live together don't We? When I was a child, before trampolines, we had neighbours annoyed about the paddling pool screaming in summer or the relentless sound of footballs being kicked around or worrying about their cars when we rode our bikes around the estate.

It's learn to live with the inevitable noise you get from living near people or live in the middle of nowhere really.

Ironically if your children never go in the garden and spend all day in front of the xbox with headphones on that's wrote g as well...

I think the crux of the issue is about give and take.
I live in a block of 6 flats and we are all aware that we can hear each other.
Some of my neighbours have kids that play out in our communal garden, some of us have bbq's, some of us have parties.
We all communicate with each other and respect what a huge impact noise levels can have on life.
None of my neighbours let their children play out from 7am until 11pm, because that is unfair on everybody.
Just like bbqs if washing is out, or parties that shake the block until 3am.
I think it's a shame that more neighbours don't work together to create a happy atmosphere for everybody.
When I read threads like this, it reminds me how incredibly lucky I am to be part of such a lovely, neighbourly block of flats.

The squeak would drive me beyond batty. I'd be like Mabel but packing a tin of WD40.

I don't think it's unreasonable to have one, but how often do you see a massive one shoved right up against some poor fuckers fence so trampoline family can still have a bit of garden. Why can't people buy one and position it so only they're affected.

That's unreasonable, and so is bouncing on it at 11pm.

the noise doesn't bother me with the neighbors one, but it being against the fence does. Their children and friends seem to spend a fair bit of time looking into our garden from it. To me, that feels similar to as if they were pressing their noses at the window looking into the house.

I try not to be too baa humbug but next door have one and little girl can be in it shrieking for hours. Bloody annoying when I'm trying to study. Their next door but one also have one, and a little girl, so often they're both out there shrieking at each other across the gardens. And its HUGE. bit of an eyesore I can see it now. Few foot over our high fence. Huge dirty yellow floppy netted thing.

YANBU. DD (13) will go out for a bounce for a few minutes. If she's got friends there might be a couple of shrieks but they lose interest after a short while. If your NDNs kids are bouncing and shrieking for ages there are out of order. You can be young and active without making a lot of din.

jamdonut you have my sympathy Screaming children after having them at school all day and unable to enjoy your own garden

Op "Am I being unreasonable"
Mumsnet "yes"
Op "ok, but I'm going to keep being unreasonable and in fact get even more so"

Op, I suspect you're exaggerating a tad. It's very rare for kids to play on a trampoline non stop for 12+ hours a day every single day and for all the neighbourhood kids to do so. Not just as it's exhausting jumping on a trampoline and nigh on impossible to do it for so long, but simply kids have low boredom thresholds.

So I think yes you're being unreasonable. You want your right to quiet to trump their right to trampoline in their garden. If you are exaggerating how long this is going on for (as you were exaggerating having a nervous breakdown, i mean cmon really) then maybe think about compromise, you both have rights, yours are no more important than theirs, so a bit of give and take. I'm fairly sure there is lengthy quiet periods in between the trampoline activities.