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AIBU to be really pissed off with my neighbourgh right now.

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Shootfirstaskquestionslater · 12/05/2017 19:36

My neighbourgh has 2 staffies and she told me when I moved in here to keep my 2 cats indoors which I do anyway because her dogs will attack them. Tonight I've just had her 2 dogs leg it in to my house and chase the cats upstairs the cats are fine but are now hiding on top of the wardrobe too frightened to come down. They need to keep control of their dogs they scream and shout at people when their dogs are in the shared garden there are a lot of young kids round here who are frightned of their dogs but they seem to think that its ok to shout at them because their dogs have lived here for 5 years so we should all just put up and shut up. I am fed up of going out in to my garden only to be nearly sent flying by one of her dogs and bitten every time they see me. Has anyone got any advice on what I can do other than just grin and bear it. Really want to put a fence up round the bit of garden that come with my house but I need to speak to easte agents first about that.

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Shootfirstaskquestionslater · 12/05/2017 20:14

PeaFaceMgee I am going to report them I have tried my best to just out up with these dogs but I can't any longer.

justdon'tevenfuckingstart I would've been mortified too if that had been my dogs. I got a half hearted apology off her but she was too stoned off her face to really care. She is privavetly renting like me but they have a different landlord to me and I don't know how to go about finding out who their landlord is to report them.

Navyandwhite thank you I will find out how to get in touch with envromental health and see what help they can offer.

user11145755 I will phone up the council on Monday and see what they say.

John4703 thank you for that advice I will try that if they ever come in to my house again. I would happily put up with their dogs if they where under control.

TheMasterNotMargarita unfortunatly they may end up being PTS but thats probably better than a child being hurt.

DeeDooDee Thank you I will try and do that the next time I see them just so I have some proof.

IJustLostTheGame thank you for that helpful information and I will look in to repoorting them.

MimiSunshine I heard about that poor little girl this is whats making me worry so much about these out of control dogs.

I get the feeling that people round here are too afraid to do anything about these people and their dogs there are things like a trampoline and swings out in the garden but I never ever see any kids playing in the garden because everyone is too terified of these out of control dogs to let their kids out in the garden unsupervised.

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allthatnonsense · 12/05/2017 20:17

Report it and send an anonymous letter to all affected neighbours encouraging them to do the same. Hopefully the dogs will be seized and destroyed.

PeaFaceMcgee · 12/05/2017 20:18

I don't know how to go about finding out who their landlord is to report them

You can find the property owners details on Land Registry deeds. Visit the website, search for the address, pay £3 for the document download and it's under the first section 'proprietor' I think.

Should be a name and address for the owner.

Strikhedonia · 12/05/2017 20:21

You have been lucky not to have been bitten, but I would be very worried it's only a question of time. Don't feel bad for reporting, you would feel a lot worst if something horrendous happens to a child because everybody knew but no-one did anything.

I have 2 (big) dogs here, but my kids come first!

innagazing · 12/05/2017 20:24

Inform your landlord too. They may know who the other landlord is, as may have been neighbours at one time. Report to 101 too, about dogs being out of control and coming into your house. Please do your very best to make sure no one with children decide to visit you without being aware of the situation. You're doing the right thing by not letting your niece visit,

Shootfirstaskquestionslater · 12/05/2017 20:24

birdsgottaf1y regardless of whether they just mouthed me or not these dogs seem to have taken over the garden and are terriosing people and stopping them from using the garden and I think its unfair that we all pay rent to live here and have a communal garden but no one uses it because of these dogs and their owners. Who wants to be shouted at for being terrified of dogs. I am definetly going to report them.

Yoursforthetaking thank you I am going to report it before they do someone some real harm.

Navyandwhite Your right the owners are part of the problem because they are doing nothing to keep these dogs under control.

FittionTower Exactly I don't want to be 'mouthed' in my own garden let alone allow my cats to be chased round their home.

requestingsunshine exactly these dogs have taken over the garden and the owners are a waste of space they see nothing wrong with letting the dogs act the way that they do. I would have no problem with the dogs if they just learnt how to keep them under control. I would feel awrful if they got a small child.

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Mu123 · 12/05/2017 20:30

If any dog came running in my house chasing my cat I'm not sure it would get out alive again. I love dogs, but fuck that, and being bitten at, no way!

Chickoletta · 12/05/2017 20:32

REPORT THEM!

Shootfirstaskquestionslater · 12/05/2017 20:40

allthatnonsense Thank you I will try that and see if I can get everyone to back me to report them.

PeaFaceMgee Thank you for your advice I will do that then I'll know who to report them to over their dogs.

Strikehedonia Thank you your right as much as I feel bad about reporting these dogs I would feel a million times worse if they got a child i am lucky they haven't done worse to me but how long before its a child on the recieveing end.

innagazing Thank you for your advice and help I will do that and I will phone up 101 they should be able to help with these dogs. I will make sure that people who are visiting know about whats going on with these dogs. My niece won't be visting until something is done about these dogs. I will contact my landlord as well they may have an idea about who owns the block of flats next door.

I know they have been reported to the RSPCA quite a few times but nothing has ever been done about them which is wrong in my eyes if they RSPCA know about these dogs already then they should've done something about them surely or am I wrong in thinking that.

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Shootfirstaskquestionslater · 12/05/2017 20:44

Haha Mu123 this time they got out alive but if it happens again I can't promise they will be leaving alive. It's not nice being bitten at when your trying to enjoy your garden I love dogs as much as the next person but these 2 are just taking the biscuit now and they are way too out of control.

chickoletta I'm going to everyone has given me loads of helpful advice so I will be reporting them. Tonight was a step too far for my liking. Was worried that I was being unresonable but I have put up with these out of control dogs for long enough now.

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HappyFlappy · 12/05/2017 20:44

A dog doesn't have to be aggressive to hurt someone.

Staffies are very heavy, powerful and exuberant dogs for their size. (We've had four, though not more than two at a time.) Unless they are properly trained they have a tendency to jump up and "mouth" people. It isn't aggression, it's over-excitement. but they can easily send a child (or indeed and adult) flying which can result in broken bones or cracked skulls.

There is also a danger that if someone (especially a child) is knocked over, and particularly if they start to cry/scream, ANY dog of ANY breed will get dangerously over-excited and may start to bite in earnest.

You and your family (which includes your cats) have a right to live in peace and enjoy your garden, and the animals certainly shouldn't be going into your house. These dogs will not only be chasing people and other animals, they will be soiling the garden area. You have every right to report them.

It is very unlikely that the police would have them destroyed, so don't worry about that, but they will certainly tell the owners that they must keep them under control and will charge them if they don't.

dworky · 12/05/2017 20:45

Definitely report, they are clearly irresponsible owners & it's only a matter of time before a child or animal is attacked
Incidentally cats have a right to roam, dogs do not.

Flopjustwantscoffee · 12/05/2017 20:49

Birds gotta fly. Under normal circumstance yes, it would be way to early to think about putting a dog to sleep when it had only mouthed at someone. But th these owners those dogs are going to get worse, to better, and a child I. A house wouldn't be able to climb up and hide on top of a wardrobe if (when) they next invade someone else's home. Best case scenario for everyone is those dogs are taken away from the owners, but unfortunately that seems unlikely

Craigie · 12/05/2017 21:04

Their dogs are dangerous and need to be reported. I despise staffies and think the world would be a much better place if certain dog breeds, including them, didn't exist. Blah, blah, blah, it's not the dog, it's the owners. Bollocks. IMO.

MyPatronusIsAUnicorn · 12/05/2017 21:06

Really? The dogs just ran into your home, the neighbour thinks they can dictate what everyone does and these dogs try and bite you all the time?

Shootfirstaskquestionslater · 12/05/2017 21:27

HappyFlappy Thank you I will report them but I don't think anything will be done about them. Those dogs are very powerful and if they can nearly knock me off my feet it wouldn't take much to send a child flying and your right I do have a right to live in peace and enjoy my home and garden and not have to be worried about dogs entering my home and chasing my cats. The garden is always covered in dog mess and their idea of cleaning it up is to put it in to a bag and then throw the bag in to a tree.

dworky Thank you I will be reporting them because they do have irrersponaible owners dogs like that need owners that know how to handle them not owners that think its ok to let them run wild. I would rather something was done about them now instead of after they have attacked a child or another animal.

craigie they are danagerous and they will be getting reported not sure that much will be done about them though unfortunatly.

MyPatrounsIsAUnicorn Yes they just ran straight in to my house I am hard of hearing so I didn't realise they where out in the garden until I seen them in my house. Yes the neighbours think that because they have lived here for 5 years the dogs are allowed to have the run of the garden and no one else can use it when the dogs are out there because they are that out of control and yes they do jump up at me and bite at my hands and my wrists. These dogs have stopped me from enjoying my garden because I don't like being out there when they are.

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justkeepswimmingg · 12/05/2017 23:23

Yes the councils dog warden needs to be made aware. Hopefully they already are, and you can simple build on the case. Contact your landlord, or estate agents, to make them aware. They should contact the neighbours landlord on your behalf, as I'm sure no sane landlord would want a tenant behaving as she does. First of all she may not have permission for the dogs (a lot of landlords refuse pets), and also she gets 'stoned' - who's to say her tenancy says no smoking and she smokes in the house. Hopefully she'll be booted out in a few months time, and you can start to enjoy your new home.
Btw I have a staff, they aren't all bad. She's a lovely girl, and is the best with our DS. They aren't nicknamed 'nanny dogs' for no reason, they can be amazing pets, so its a shame when owners bring them up irresponsible.
Good luck OP.

Shootfirstaskquestionslater · 13/05/2017 00:54

justkeepswimming thank you for your advice I will speaking to the council about the dogs and I will also be speaking to my EA on Monday about the dogs they may know who the landlord is for the block of flats next door. I doubt she is allowed the dogs because the block of flats I live in has a strict no dogs rule and I'm not allowed to smoke in my flat so its doubtful that shes allowed to smoke anything in hers. That's another issue I have with them they are also smoking drugs in the back garden and use the back garden for what they call parties. I know how lovely staffies can be my sister has 2 staffie cross dogs and they are lovely dogs and so great with my niece but those 2 next door are totally out of control and need better owners who know what they are doing. Thank you hopefully I can get it all sorted and fingers crossed them and their dogs will be moved on somewhere else and we can all enjoy the garden we are paying for.

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AwaywiththePixies27 · 13/05/2017 06:51

Oh enough with the 'its not the dogs its the owners' BS.

I love dogs, but they're instinctive animals, it doesn't matter how soft and cuddly the animals are, they all have the potential to turn. A friend of mine has the most softest dog in the world, she's still gone for another dog when she's needed to.

OP. You need to report to the dog warden. Get some pretty sturdy fences up and speak to the council. If she's telling her neighbour to keep her cats in so her dogs don't hurt them they're not under control.

AwaywiththePixies27 · 13/05/2017 06:53

I'd be letting the landlord of her house know too, your comment about being stoned off her face implies she's probably doing what she shouldn't be doing.

HappyFlappy · 13/05/2017 12:57

The garden is always covered in dog mess and their idea of cleaning it up is to put it in to a bag and then throw the bag in to a tree

Shock That is DISGUSTING! But may actually add weight to your complaint if you can point out the tree full of "poisoned fruit"

I have a staff, they aren't all bad. She's a lovely girl

Totally agree with you swimmingg - it's just such a pity they attract so many arsehole owners. Any breed with this type of tatty owner would be just as much of a nuisance, and some would be a much greater danger because they don't have the staffie temperament (believe it or not folks, they are a very sweet-natured dog).

I hope you get the matter sorted OP - please let us know how things go. It just takes one family like this and the environment is ruined for everyone. Best of luck.

HappyFlappy · 13/05/2017 12:59

*twatty owner, not tatty.

It's bad enough that autocorrect changes the words I type without it feeling the need to Bowdlerise my swears.

I AM AN ADULT, AUTOCORRECT - I WILL SAY BAD SWEARS IF I WANT TO. Angry

WelliesAndPyjamas · 13/05/2017 13:08

What is mouthing then? Is it where it looks like you are being bitten, and you have the accompanying fear and panic, but after the dog has let go, it turns out they didn't break the skin?

Rufus200 · 13/05/2017 13:10

You only have to feel scared or threatened by a dog, it doesn't have to have bitten, to report it to the police.

HappyFlappy · 13/05/2017 13:20

Many breeds "mouth" Wellies.

It's where a dog gets hold of something (or someone) and very gently exerts pressure. Skin is rarely broken, but strong breeds can leave bruises. It's a way of dogs exploring things (in the same way that babies put stuff in their mouths) and is also a sign of great affection (believe it or not) - it's like us giving someone a hug. Dogs also use it as a way of inviting play - a sort of "come on, let's have fun!".

Staffies are a very "mouthy" breed, and so are most spaniels and retrievers.

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