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to think the turkeys aren't voting at all?

61 replies

charlestondancer · 05/05/2017 19:05

Like many I am dismayed at the election results and the gains by the tories. An area close to me is considered one of the most deprived in the UK and they have voted in a tory councilor!

I could call them all crazy for obviously voting against their best interests but looking at the voter turn out it seems only a very few people turned out at all to vote i think at best it is about 35% of those eligable to vote do so I just don't understand this at all. I think I would be able to better accept these results if I felt that I majority of the electorate was voting and this is what they were choosing but when its all based on such low turnout I struggle to accept it.

Should voting be compulsery perhaps, why aren't people voting ... any ideas?

OP posts:
montgomerie · 05/05/2017 19:07

I thought the liberal lefties wanted to deprive people of a vote.

user1493759849 · 05/05/2017 19:08

People don't want to vote for Labour, as they are a hot mess, and Corbyn is a deluded chump, Libdems are a joke, and people can't bring themselves to vote Tory. That's why the many are not voting.

In addition, some people who previously voted Labour (but refuse to now,) are voting Tory, rather than not voting at all. Ergo, Tory are winning, but the turnout isn't great.

charlestondancer · 05/05/2017 19:11

So what are the political views of the people who aren't using their vote. Corbyn isn't a chump and not compared to Theresa May who is hopeless but then she has the backing of the right wing press.

Like I said if this was what everyone wanted and most people got out and voted fine but they just don't vote at all.

OP posts:
BoneyBackJefferson · 05/05/2017 19:17

the views of some of the people that are not voting are 'non of the above' but as we are only allowed to vote 'positively' for a party, and there is a huge amount of mis-information (or its looked down upon) about spoiling your ballot people don't bother.

Floods123 · 05/05/2017 19:19

It's a deprived area that's always voted Labour. Deprived areas have voted Labour since time immemorial. And stayed deprived. Says it all.

JustPoppingIn · 05/05/2017 19:21

Because Jeremy Corbyn has failed to engage the majority of Labour voters. He and his supporters operate within an echo chamber and can't see beyond it.

I am a natural Labour supporter but can not relate to Cornyn.

JustPoppingIn · 05/05/2017 19:23

Or spell his name Grin

Beerwench · 05/05/2017 19:23

I didn't vote and won't be in the GE - I've lived through Tories with Thatcher, Labour with Blair and then a coalition and Tories again.
Nothing that matters to me has improved under any of them. My knowledge on politics is limited but in my view, even when I've voted for who I think represents my views closest, nothing has changed.
The NHS is still going down the toilet, schools are underfunded, the benefit system is a joke. Immigration needs some sort of control applied and we need to stop giving millions away in foreign aid when we have children, disabled and the elderly living in poverty.
Until a party comes in that addresses those issues, and does it without the big salary, second houses, and allowances for this and that that MPs get. Then I'm not voting for any of them.

HoneyDragon · 05/05/2017 19:26

Yup.....even if just you read the threads on here where people aren't insulting each other you see evidence of a disenfranchised majority rather than a lazy one. Sad

montgomerie · 05/05/2017 19:26

But it would be fine OP.

If the turkeys voted but voted differently to you then you would want their vote restricted.

montgomerie · 05/05/2017 19:27

*wouldnt

Livelovebehappy · 05/05/2017 19:28

You lost me OP when you claim Corbyn isn't a chump compared to TM. Are you serious?

mummabearfoyrbabybears · 05/05/2017 19:43

More people are finally seeing the light. Many families near me are struggling to work and pay bills and under a labour government saw people that weren't working and never had get increase after increase in their benefits. Some benefit families similar in size to the working families were on triple the income by claiming. At least the tories came in and finally capped benefits. Labour screwed up this country and it's taken Tories to enforce austerity to claw some of it back!

Iazarus · 05/05/2017 19:50

I won't be voting as it's completely pointless. Murdoch decides who wins elections in this country. The majority of people can't tell the difference between genuine news and propaganda, unfortunately propaganda is so widespread that the situation is unlikely to change anytime soon.

Floods123 · 05/05/2017 19:55

Babybears I am with you 100%. For example Remoaners saying that the crops won't get picked as no foreign workers will be allowed in. If you are fit and unemployed you should be TOLD that's what you are doing. Bus picks you up from the job centre takes you too the fields. You work and get paid the going rate get holidays etc. If you refuse all benefits stopped!

Floods123 · 05/05/2017 19:57

Lazarus you massively under estimate peoples intelligence. Of course people can tell the difference. If they don't think your way you think they are stupid like most lefties!

megletthesecond · 05/05/2017 20:01

Yup laz. Murdoch, Dacre and Rothmere are the real villains.

megletthesecond · 05/05/2017 20:03

flood I think you're vastly over estimating people's media intelligence.

GraceGrape · 05/05/2017 20:03

Tories are mopping up the UKIP vote. Previously, UKIP took some share of the right wing vote but their vote has been decimated this time round, with most former UKIP voters now voting Conservative. This happened in my area. Our local councillor until yesterday was Lib Dem. He comfortably won 5 years ago. Yesterday, he received more votes than last time, but narrowly lost to the Tory candidate who had gained almost all of the votes that went to UKIP last time.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 05/05/2017 20:06

Local elections always have a low turnout. I don't see what the story is. Nothing to be seen here, move along?

GraceGrape · 05/05/2017 20:07

I think younger voters are also less likely to turn out for local elections, especially students who are still at University.

Blowingthroughthejasmineinmymi · 05/05/2017 20:08

Tons beyond that too Mummy.

Maybe they were so incredibly inspired by DA radio interview they decided to do something far more important than race down to the booth and cast a vote for a woman who clearly couldn't be bothered to even prepare for the radio. Maybe they decided to cut their toe nails.

Blowingthroughthejasmineinmymi · 05/05/2017 20:10

Funny thing is I have voted for Labour far more than Tory in my life, and feel more affinity with LABOUR, however I feel so fucking angry with them at the moment. Blair makes me feel sick. I cannot bear what he did to our country. Chukka and all the rest, DA, even Corybn make me feel angry. I cannot stand them. I almost feel like getting them by the scruff of the neck telling them to get out of the public eye for a few months and go and fucking live the lives of the people they supposedly represent.

I adore FF and Gisella however and a few others. The rest.........

ForalltheSaints · 05/05/2017 20:12

Local election turnout is poor, UKIP vote collapses and Jeremy Corbyn is not a leader but head of something more akin to a cult. Lib Dems have not gained much.

The UKIP losses have cheered me up though, as the rejection of a party that wants to cut off overseas aid and have compulsory medicals for some teenage women.

Lionking1981 · 05/05/2017 20:15

I normally vote Labour but I couldn't bring myself to vote in this election at all. Not because or Corbyn who I like but because of the back stabbers in the party who have created all this chaos in my opinion. The labour candidate in my area is one of the worst so I could not bring myself to vote for him.

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