To put my 6 week old on Soya Formula?

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I'm dairy free as I can't quite cope with it, it gives me a bad stomach.

My son is on cow & gate comfort as he struggles with constipation but it hasn't helped.

I come from a family with dairy intolerance, I have a brother with a protein allergy from cows milk.

I also do not believe that as humans, we should be using another species milk, it's weird (but that's my opinion).

So I've been looking at SMA Soya to put my son on, wibu to make that decision myself without consulting a gp?

Seek medical advice, soya is not great for humans either.

YABU my DD has CMPA, it has to be nutramigen they swap onto as soya has hormones in it that affects growth development according to her dietician, they can't have it under 6 months.

I am seeing my HV next week as well as my GP.

I will discuss then about starting bf'ing again or to go onto neonate or the other one.

There are mums who 're'lactate for adopted kids having never bf so it's a definately possibility. Lll are the best ppl to contact but any bf support in your area is worth speaking to as it's more of an art to learning the skills to get past bf difficulties

Pulling on and off can be many reasons tounge tie, reflux, and occasionally tension in neck from birth-try cranial oesteo path for the latter- you would want to seak medical support for these problems whether bf or ff as they cause problems with both. You may have also struggled with milk coming in late or inhibited let down reflex-there are many things that can be done about this and what you express has no bearing on what you produce-many mums cant ever expresses a drop but feed children for years.

If you prefer opting for formula you should speak to go for advice on medical problems. Cmpa/i is more common than lactose intolerance (which in its extreeme form is rare-less than 5%of babies born without the liver enzymes to digest lactose. Although it can be more complicated and milder lactose sensitivities related to gut bacteria isn't uncommon in some babies, especially prem babies whose guts havn't developed fully & this is where the probl after sick bugs comes from) but milk for either is prescription & soya proteins are similar to cm ones so avoiding this is also recommended if cmpa/i is suspecTed.

But soya formula is advised against for first milk. Speak to gp & try lll if you are interested in relactating.

Op what do you mean when you say he isn't getting on with dairy?what are his symptoms?
My ds had Neocate as he had cmpa and he was so much better on it than cow&gate.

I would speak to a GP or paediatrician before switching formula.

If you are considering attempting to restart breastfeeding, then it may be best to seek advice from specialist breastfeeding support groups like La Leche League. It's my understanding that GPs and HVs aren't required to have any in depth training in breastfeeding, so it's a bit hit and miss about whether you get one that knows much about supporting breastfeeding or relactating.

He would continue to do the above, it didn't help that he was formula fed in hospital as he was in NICU. Why did they not let you express breast milk to feed him with.
Why could you not see him for 24 hours?

You're right op, processed cows milk is not the best food for your baby. Nor is neonate.

You don't have to wait to see your HV/GP and they are probably not the best people to advise in relation to relactating.

Phone LLL or look up a lactation consultant in your area, they will be able to discuss how to go about breastfeeding your baby. People who adopt are able to breastfeed so it's perfectly possible. It may take quite a bit of determination but human milk is the optimal food for a human baby.

User babies born with a true form of lactose intolerance wouldn't suit bf-it wd kill them. These babies are more often born with other disabilities though, sadly that's nature's way of self selecting sadly enough (me & 3dc are all disabled)

Often it doesn't suit mum or baby bc it doesn't work for mums mh- sometimes this is lack of support/can be helped by managing to bf (which is my experience as it happens-dmer until we sorted some v serious techniqual problems under neath) but not allways.

Op don't am wait until you see hv (who sounds useless) contact hospital to speak to their lactation consultant/bf councilor now & contact lll right away. Even if you don't think bf will be right for you long term they may have a good idea at what went wrong with it & these things can effect bottle feeding also-tt, reflux, refusal to feed can effect bottle feeding just as bad if not worse than bf. Hcp rarely have much knowledge on bf & charities tend to be far better educated in this respect. Also try natural mamas forum-will have more knowledgeable info than here & will be able to recommend ppl in your area to help.

If I were you I would put him on this HA formula which you can get over the counter:

www.smababy.co.uk/formula-milk/ha-infant-milk/

He's got colic so I changed his bottles but he is passing extremely offensive smelling wind....it's making me nauseous and I can pass some pretty offensive ones!

He has constipation, hasn't poo'd for days...he's throwing up too, is on gaviscon but not helping.

It's probably too late to use the HA milk as it should be used from the first milk feed not after they have already been exposed to normal formula milk

Gaviscon causes constipation too. Do they think he had reflux?

My baby has an allergy to milk and she was put on hydrolysed formula by a doctor. My milk supply was low for whatever reason. So I decided that my little one would have whatever she could get from the breast, and the rest from a bottle of formula. And 18 months on she is still having breast and bottle. Points being that :
Get her seen by a doctor to get whatever suits her condition
If you still have a little bit of milk, see the formula as a way to help your child grow and just do the best you can
Cuddles are awesome, breast or bottle!

Gaviscon gave ds terrible constipation and did nothing to help his reflux

See your GPabd an ILBC if you want to restart breastfeeding. Or humanmilkforhumsn babies on Facebook help to set up milk exchanges.

My son has anaphylactic CMPA and soya allergy.
If your DC does indeed have a dairy allergy/intolerance, soya may not even help - soya proteins are very similar to cows milk proteins, so a high percentage of children with CMPA are also allergic to soya.
Don't do anything without consulting a Dr first

I would love to give him breast milk until the age of 1, however, I didn't produce more than a bottles worth a day
well as he was only 2 weeks old when you stopped expressing, that's hardly surprising. How much milk do you think a 2 week old drinks!

We found that when babies were very young the powdered formula made them constipated but the pre-made didn't so we gave them that for a while, then gradually introduced the powder version (although it is quite pricey).
We also tried the Hipp Organic Comfort milk, you can get it on their website but its not dairy free as far as I know.

But to be honest if you think your baby might be intolerant to or allergic to infant formula, you should contact your GP.

Having a child that was allergic to cows milk I had to swap to fully breastfeeding him at a couple months old. It's possible! I would try to stop the formula and find an alternative asap as my son had all the symptoms you describe and then ended up hospitalised. The alternative they gave me was to fully breastfeed or use neocate. Unfortunately, he didn't take to neocate as it tastes disgusting! The doctors even said to try flavouring it but it didn't work.
From what you say about your child latching perfectly and crying after every feed is perfectly normal for a breast fed baby for at least the first week. Unfortunately it's a constant feeding slog where the baby seems to be on permanently for the first few days/weeks before it settles down when the milk sets in properly.

You can buy lactose free formula from boots.

That might be worth a try.

Gaviscon does cause constipation though so might need to change reflux meds too

User babies born with a true form of lactose intolerance wouldn't suit bf-it wd kill them

OPs baby does not have a primary lactose intolerance. He should not be put on lactose free or soya formula at 6 weeks old for no real reason.

Il have a look on the websites recommended, as I would like to re establish bf'ing, I just assumed it was too late. Once it's established, could I look at expressing so family can help out??

I know. I wasn't suggesting her baby did. But you seemed to be saying that bf suits all babies just bc humans are designed to bf. It doesn't. Often bc of dis ability related like praha willy syndrom prevent ducking if true lactose intolerance, often linked to downs. It isn't helpful to say it suits all babies.

Has he been checked for tongue tie? Probably a daft question but, we thought ds had colicky then reflux, he wasn't gaining weight, I thought I wasn't producing enough, he'd get on the breast, feed for a minute and then cry, repeat. He was put on gaviscon, then reflux medicine. Turned out he had and posterior tongue tie. Had it diagnosed/divided at 18 weeks. Different again.

If you are going to try re-lactating etc, get him checked first because it can make such a massive difference.