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to contact my abusive mother one last time

102 replies

Thingsgetbetter · 04/05/2017 11:33

NC for this.

I had a pretty crap childhood. My DF left my not so DM when I was 9 and that's when the abuse started. My mother couldn't cope with bringing me and my sister, who's 2 years older, up on her own and started beating us if we so much as talked back. I got the worst of it as I would react to her abuse by shouting and calling her names. She would drag me by my hairs (handfuls would come out), punch me, bite me, kick me etc. She would tell me that she wished I'd never been born. The abuse wasn't daily. Sometimes a week or more would go by without one of her outbursts. When things were normal she'd almost behave like a normal mother. Then I would do something like tidy the house (she was very messy) and she'd come home and let rip, shouting abuse at me and beating me up, because 'she couldn't find her stuff'. Other times it would be because I was being a teenager and called her a horrible name (not proud of that). However (now) I think I was a pretty normal teenager. Talking back etc. I never did drugs, played truant, got into trouble with the law etc. Once, when I was about 9 or 10, I was eating a yoghurt and Iaccidentally spilled some on the carpet. She grabbed my head and pushed my face in the yoghurt, whilst screaming at me. She started laughing when I began to cry, brushing it off, as my fault for having spilled the yoghurt. All this time I thought it was my fault that she treated me like that. Well actually I didn't know my life wasn't normal as it was all I had known. The abuse stopped when I was 16 when I slapped her, when she came storming at me again, with her fists clenched. I went mental, shouting at her that I would never let her hurt me again. She just turned and went back to her room. And then called my father to complain about me to him (he never knew, I never told him until later in life. I was ashamed I guess). I sank into a deep depression at 18 but climbed out of it and now I'm doing pretty well. I have a career I love and am happily married. Weirdly I forgot (suppressed) my mother's abuse after she stopped. Until my mid twenties and it all came back. I then went into counselling and decided to go NC with her. Best decision I ever made. I almost lost contact with my sister too as she denies what happened and/or believes that anything that did happen was my fault for 'being naughty'. My mother once strangled me underneath the kitchen table and my sister had to pull her off me. I don't know why or how she has forgotten all of this but I guess it's a coping mechanism.

Anyhow, I haven't seen my mother for over 10 years. Now my sister is getting married, at the end of the year. And I want to be there (my sister wants me to be there too). Thing is, I am absolutely dreading seeing my mother there. I just know that when I see her I will be reduced to a 9 year old girl again who believes she got what she deserved. I know logically that the abuse isn't my fault but it's very hard to remove myself from the child in me who was always told it was my fault. So part of me still believes it. This isn't helped by the fact that I heard that my mother went crying to the rest of the family and her friends after I went NC with her, saying she didn't understand why her daughter had abandoned her. A lot of people (not all, both my GM believed me) sided with her as they'd never seen that cruel side of her that I'm so familiar with. I am scared I will be ganged up on at the wedding, by my mother, her brother (whose children have also gone NC with him, it runs in the family I guess) and her new DH, that I will get sneered at and be told I am a terrible daughter. I am scared that if she starts talking to me and pretending she's the victim I will crumble. Cry, or shout.

My aibu is, would ibu to send an email to my mother before the wedding, along the lines of: 'if you feel any regret at all for what you've done, stay away from me. You can tell others what you like about the reason I went NC with you, but you and I both know the truth'. But a bit longer and more eloquent than that of course. I just want her to know that she is the one in the wrong, and that it doesn't matter how she spins what happened between us to other people, I will never ever forget what happened, or forgive her. Most of all, I don't want her to think that my sister's wedding is an opportunity to rekindle any relationship we might have had. I need her to stay away from me. I'm so scared of losing my composure and doubting myself, being unable to get the right words out, if I have to confront her face to face.

I'm sorry this is so long!

OP posts:
PeppaPigTastesLikeBacon · 04/05/2017 16:37

justaboy would you say that to a victim of DV? As abuse from a parent to a child is no different.
I'm sure your post meant well, but it is actually quite insulting to say that speaking with an abusive parent could be beneficial to someone

AppleOfMyEye10 · 04/05/2017 16:38

Op tbh I just wouldn't go to the wedding. Even if you do ignore her, she's going to break you down and set you back in some way.

People will talk, eyes will be on you both watching for the 10 year meeting, she will have people on her side etc. why put yourself through all that?

I wish you well on whatever you decide. It's just that the definite heartache that's going to happen is just not worth it.

Elphaba99 · 04/05/2017 16:47

Apple it might be that the OP doesn't want to let her DSis down or even let her Mother's abuse dictate what she does for the rest of her life.

Also, you might find that the Mother comes up with a spurious "illness" at the last minute and doesn't turn up.

Thingsgetbetter · 04/05/2017 16:53

I missed my DU's wedding and my GF's funeral because I couldn't face my mother. But I don't want to miss my sister's wedding. True, there is a chance it might set me back but it may also empower me in a way, if I get through it with my dignity intact. It might mean she loses any last power she had over me.

OP posts:
Elphaba99 · 04/05/2017 17:34

Yes, I think it would empower you. ❤️ Is there a possibility of getting more counselling before the wedding?

FlyingElbows · 04/05/2017 17:53

While the advice to reconciliate is well intentioned it is written from a "normal" perspective as has no purpose here. Anyone who grew up in a supportive loving environment has no idea how utterly and completely soul destroying it is to be abused and rejected by a parent. As a pp said you would never make that suggestion to a victim of Dv or to a child who had been sexually abused. Shared dna is not, and must never be, a licence to abuse.

Op remember you are NC for a reason. Keep on keeping on Flowers

FlyingElbows · 04/05/2017 17:59

And this is a bit lame but it's my go to for when I need reminding...

"Through dangers untold and hardships unnumbered, I have fought my way here to the castle beyond the Goblin City to take take back the child that you have stolen. For my will is as strong as yours, and my kingdom as great.

You have no power over me." Smile

Elphaba99 · 04/05/2017 18:01
Thingsgetbetter · 04/05/2017 18:23

I love Labyrinth!!! Great mantra :)

OP posts:
Haffdonga · 04/05/2017 18:29

So, you need a few emergency plans up your sleeve.

  • Ask your dsis to make sure you're seated well away.
  • have your dh primed to rescue you if he sees her approaching
  • if you find yourself around her at any point in a group with other people (either accidentally or because she approaches), deal with an apparently friendly encounter with a few bland pleasantries and remove yourself. Doesn't dsis look lovely? Haven't we been lucky with the weather? I must pop to the loo (Then she cant play the victim and tell everyone how rude you've .been)
  • if she manages to catch you alone and wants to talk or is directly confrontational then use the Now's not the time. Let's just enjoy dsis's day line.
  • if she sends a flying monkey then use the same lines.
Is she likely to get drunk and emotional or melodramatic? (leave early)

Good luck and enjoy the wedding. And keep that mantra going in your head I'm here to enjoy dsis's wedding

Batghee · 04/05/2017 18:30

I wouldnt email because someone like that will only use it as fodder against you.
Just dont feed the flames in any way.
Go to the wedding and completely ignore her. If she tries to speak to you remain completely unemotional. One word answer and walk away if possible. The key is to respond as little as possible.
You wont get any closure from her if she cant admit what shes done. Any emotion from you will be taken by her and used to her own ends.
None of this your fault. Remember that and dont ever feel the need to justify or explain yourself. There is no dialogue to be had.
I hope you manage to have a brilliant time at the wedding. Flowers

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 04/05/2017 18:39

It might be worth speaking to your sister to let her know that if your mother gives you any shit then you will retreat to your room, and that you are doing this so that there is no drama to spoil the wedding. So she knows not to take offence.

In my family my DH, the best man and maid of honour would combine forces to make sure that the mother was steered away from trouble. It is kind of their job at a wedding.

At my sister's wedding, my job was to contain my mother. Maybe someone can do that for you?

eddielizzard · 04/05/2017 18:50

such good advice on here.

i agree with prepping your sister that you don't want to sit near your mum. and practice all those one-liners. actually imagine and walk through different scenarios in your mind, practicing them. they won't feel so foreign when you're actually there.

no child no matter how badly they behave deserve what your mum did to you. no child. because your mum was the adult and should have shown you love. you are not responsible for her abuse, and i think you're amazing and strong to have cut her out and make a stand. that's a very hard thing to do.

Flowers
CabbagesOnFire · 04/05/2017 19:30

Another good phrase, if she says, for example, that you've been a terrible daughter, is "I'm sorry you feel that way."

Flowersinyourhair · 04/05/2017 19:42

It is not your fault. No child deserves to be hurt or humiliated and no child deserves to go unloved. You need to repeat that to yourself constantly.
You are amazing. You have done well for yourself, despite the worst possible start and for that you need to feel proud. If you have managed to do that, you can do anything. You can manage a day around her because you have managed your life without her.

Let your DH shield you if you need him to, but stand tall and proud. Flowers

CabbagesOnFire · 04/05/2017 19:47

You might be feeling very angry towards her, and wanting to express that anger to her, but in my opinion that will only make things worse. Don't take her on directly. Because if you're triggered into feeling 9 years old again, then you will lose the fight and she will turn it against you. The attitude to take towards her to stay strong, is indifference. Even if it makes you feel a little, well.... dumb. For example, if she goads you with some provocative question on a controversial topic, you could just shrug and say "I don't really know" while looking away. Or you could answer a completely different question from the one she asked. It's a tactic of pseudo-stupidity, and I use it with my family to sidestep their jibes. Just don't give her the pleasure of getting under your skin. You have the right to have a calm sane normal day without any interference from anyone.

CabbagesOnFire · 04/05/2017 19:49

Sorry for multiple posts, I just keep thinking of more to say. In my opinion, you don't even need to say to her "I don't want to talk to you." I don't say that to my family because it would make the whole thing flare up. I just, well, don't talk to them.

Thingsgetbetter · 04/05/2017 19:54

Thanks again to every single one of you for having taken the time to read and post - you've made me feel so much better already and I'm taking all the advice on board :)

OP posts:
elevenclips · 04/05/2017 20:00

Sorry if repeating but
A) don't email
B) use dh as bodyblocker, make sure you stay joined at the hip and he can fend her off first
C) if she tries to engage, say "excuse me" and walk away

kennypppppppp · 04/05/2017 20:09

Don't contact her. The wedding is your sister, not your mother. I last saw my mother at a funeral and it was horrendous being in the Same room as her but I didn't speak to her or go anywhere near her but I hope that her seeing me there wound her up enormously (I;vet been no contact for 14 ish years).

Will you see your therapist before and after? Will someone be there for moral support for you on the day?

kennypppppppp · 04/05/2017 20:12

Oooh, plus she might have changed her email address. Or even if she hasn't, imagine she has and then you'll be no way tempted to contact her.

Designerenvy · 04/05/2017 20:20

Op, non of that was your fault. She was the adult and should have been in control, even if you did annoy her ( like all kids do to their dm's), she had no right to do those vile things to u.
She doesn't deserve your time. Don't contact her please. Go to the wedding and as pp's have said, ignore her.
Please don't blame yourself, remember you were a child ! Flowers

Designerenvy · 04/05/2017 20:21

Ps: I've Benn nc with my df for about 10 years now. Also abusive. No.regrets.

Justaboy · 04/05/2017 23:36

PeppaPigTastesLikeBacon et al, No course this isn't to be cured overnight on the day it may never be so and yes, DV abuse to children is abhorrent totally inexcusable. Totally agree on that and also no intention to upset to offend anyone but i do try and question why is it people are like that?, how do they get like that, why do they behave as they do.

It may well be that with the passing of time its not so much as how to go to war but to see if we can understand for peace.

I do know of a very similar situation to what the OP is facing and its not really within this thread to dissect that as such.

Enough said! but this thread thus far is making the OP feel better and more able to handle the situation and that in itself is an excellent outcome.

Elphaba99 · 05/05/2017 13:19

Any abuse of children is abhorrent. Sexual, violence or emotional. It's not a competition. There's also an element of brainwashing involved which is exceptionally cruel, as it can stunt emotional growth, wreck any semblance of self and self-esteem, and confuse the hell out of children. All of this can and often does last long into adulthood.

I understand what you're saying about trying to work out what has caused this behaviour justaboy but even knowing the cause cannot and should not justify abusive behaviour by a parent.

It's not a case of going to war, it's a case of self-protection by cutting contact and trying to start living. I appreciate it must be hard to understand but for too many children it is the only way forward.

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