AIBU to think kids to characters should speak correctly?

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Some of the way kids tv characters speak is appalling. I'm thinking Bing and characters in Kate and mim mim (which we never watch as it's just too irritating for me) off the top of my head.
I wonder if this can have a negative impact on kids learning to speak or AIBU and it's only an issue if bad tv is the only speech a child hears (which obviously doesn't happen).

Just a general musing really on how people feel about bad grammar in kids tv! I think I just find it annoying more than worrying.

Oops silly auto correct in the post title. Sorry!

Yanbu

Waybullos (not sure of spelling sorry) are the worse.

My dd copies them it's infuriating.

I read somewhere once, that a lot of research went into the sounds they make (esp with BBC programs) as it helps language development. Not sure if this is true.
The one I hate most is Charlie and Lola. They may have clear speech but the way they muddle up words is so irritating.

Mine grew up with Sesame Street, Playdays, Bagpuss, Telly tubbies and a programme with three dolls one of whom was French. Plus fun song factory. None of them has an American accent (except they do still say zee rather than zed), none of them twitters on in gibberish and squeaky noises but they all know lots of children's songs. I think the BBC programming aims to use toddler language to assist with language development rather than inhibit. Mine can all talk for England (and use RP) now so seems to work.

Tots TV crumbs misses point of thread

Yes, Bing annoys me! I know children make mistakes with irregular verbs but they eventually learn the correct forms by listening to other people. I suppose the odd TV programme isn't going to hold back their language development too much but it still gets on my nerves.

I hate Waybuloo too but fortunately mine have outgrown it. They are big fans of Charlie and Lola though.

We never really watched the cbeebies programmes but ds loved Peppa Pig and Ben & Holly as a toddler. Despite living in an area where most people (including me) speak with a very broad Yorkshire accent, he speaks like the characters on PP/BH. It does stand out quite a bit!

I don't think that the occasional mispronunciation on a child's TV programme really matters though as long as children are regularly spoken to, hear the correct way of speaking and are encouraged to speak properly from a young age.

I didn't realise BBC put that much thought into their own shows. . That's good to know. But I wonder if shows like Bing and Charlie and Lola have toddler based speech aid thinking behind them as they are based on children's books. Or are they similpy made to be entertaining. I'd be interested to find the original books and see what the language like.

But yes I agree, I doubt it will have any impact on development and certainly not a long lived problem even if children do copy at some point.

Just us adults that want to stab at our ear drums at some of the shows. Or just me!

YABU- it's really important that children learn to play around with words/language. You model correct speech, but they will develop deeper understanding and a love of words and their sounds by playing in this way.

Teletubies were criticised for their speech back in the day but a lot of research went into how they speak.
I'm not really bothered as DD gets exposed to correct speech all day and only watches twenty minuets while I cook.
I also like Bing.

I used to babysit a 3 year old often, who was obsessed with 'in the night garden'. Her parents allowed it constantly playing on TV all day. This little girl couldn't speak one English word at all, and every time she 'spoke' she was using their 'language'. It was very concerning. Her nursery were involved with SENCO, much to her parents disagreement. Her mum was in tears about her child having 'something wrong with her'! The nursery strongly advised them to stop her watching the programme, and called for additional support. Haven't seen her in 2 years, so can't say how long this went on for. Completely agree though, they need to start making the characters voices more realistic, and 'human-like'. My DS doesn't tend to watch kids programmes, (other than Thomas and friends) as he prefers Disney films - thankfully!

YANBU, it's a destructive force. That's why so many baby boomers speak exclusively in Oddle Poddle, from watching too much Bill and Ben. It's sad.

Parents have been saying this since 1952, with Bill and Ben ("Flobbadob! Weeeeeeeeeeed!")

X-post with Borp!

Borp I hear you, my husband grew up watching The Clangers and now communicates solely in high pitched whistles.

Borp You are absolutely right; when my Mum has one too many sherries she insists on making noises like "weeblob, Ben". It's ruined many a christmas party.

I don't mind the language on In The Night Garden, and younger characters speaking in a toddler like way such as Bing, but Waybuloo drives me round the bend as it is so mangled.

It doesn't help that I always feel aggravated by the sight of the Waybuloo characters attempting to do yoga with their ginormous heads and stunted limbs that mean you can't see what they're doing anyway.

I can't stand most of the accents on children's TV characters either. What's with the strange "fake Somerset" drawling? And calling flowers flaahwaahs? It's odd and makes children who copy it sound odd

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Yanbu

Half the reason cbeebies is banned in this house. Nonsense.

Talk properly ffs

Agreed, OP. Hate Charlie and Lola. Sounds like it's been written by an illiterate idiot. There's one thing using sounds a small child might actually use, but deliberately writing grammatically incorrectly, in order to try and sound like a child (and failing miserably, IMHO) is just odd!

Yes!! Totally failing miserably, I agree sprinklestar !

I don't think it does any harm, my DSs love Teletubbies but when they say "eh oh laalaa" or whatever it seems to be like when DH and I quote film references to each other, you know? They still say hello normally.

I mean yeah if I stuck them in front of it all day and barely spoke to them I can see how they might end up like the kid justkeepswimming knew but if I did the same with EastEnders they would probably sound like they're from London and call people slaaaags. As a small part of a normal routine I think it's fine.

YABU. Its a form of entertainment. Young DCs pay more attention to the music/ sounds, lights etc than the talking. Even kids that are plonked in front of the TV for hours on end go to school speaking relatively normal. Wait til they are wandering round waitrose with you at 15 asking for "cheerios innit". PS - my fave program when DC were young was yoho ahoy and they didn't speak at all (clangers anyone?) F*ck little bill with all his politically correct friends (and sex pest rapist the show was named after)