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100 days in - congrats to us all for keeping sane on the Trump train

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TheClaws · 01/05/2017 11:44

The Trump thread continued. We are all LEGENDS!

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PerkingFaintly · 07/05/2017 12:29

This may have been posted already, but Merkel has called on Putin to investigate the persecutions of gay people in Chechnya and ensure LGBT rights across the region (and also rights of Jehovah's Witnesses).

Merkel presses Putin over anti-gay purge in Chechnya
www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/02/angela-merkel-vladimir-putin-russia-investigate-lgbt-torture-claims-chechnya

Angela Merkel raises concerns with Vladimir Putin over persecution of gay people in Chechnya
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/angela-merkel-vladimir-putin-russia-talks-chechnya-gay-people-germany-ukraine-sanctions-syria-assad-a7713511.html

If anyone would like to sign, here's a petition here to go to the Prosecutor General of Russia:
www.change.org/p/russia-prosecutor-general-investigate-mass-murder-and-torture-of-lgbt-people-in-chechnya

MsHooliesCardigan · 07/05/2017 12:31

Bigly That Guardian link made my brain hurt. Seriously scary.

MrsT2007 · 07/05/2017 13:16

Yes it's beyond scary!

Cavemum Yep I remember Jim et al! I was v happy to graft if there was progress but I asked the big boss if I'd be able to shadow any of the office stuff and got a blank no, not now or in foreseeable future. So basically they hadn't really thought about how to use me at all longer term. So it was £25k grad job or one I could've done at 16 with no quals. No brainier but I was so upset that my hand had been 'forced'.

Looks like Mike Flynn Je has deleted his Twitter. Naughty boy, they were all told not to delete stuff weren't they?

PerkingFaintly · 07/05/2017 13:34

Will sit down and read that Guardian article properly, but some other names to add to the "key names list" are:

Aleksandr Kogan, who has recently changed his name to Aleksandr Spectre
and
Michal Kosinski of the Psychometric Centre at Cambridge University.
motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/how-our-likes-helped-trump-win

I'm not suggesting any political aim by Kosinski, but his academic work has been used by Kogan.

PerkingFaintly · 07/05/2017 13:51

BTW, I've been inclined for a while to give credence to the big data stories, because some time before the US election - and probably before the EU ref - I read an interview of one of Cambridge folk talking about how big data was being used.

Annoyingly I can't find the article again or even remember the name (my best guess is Kosinksi). Just that it involved a Cambridge department and was utterly chilling in what it was describing.

Also that the tone of the article was bizarrely at odds with the content. IIRC, it was a friendly, interested article with a tone of "Aw shucks, ain't science fascinating."

PerkingFaintly · 07/05/2017 14:01

Possibly it was this article from 2015, which gives just a minor nod at the end to the rest of the Munch-scream-inducing content:

Computers using digital footprints are better judges of personality than friends and family
www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/computers-using-digital-footprints-are-better-judges-of-personality-than-friends-and-family

SanFranBear · 07/05/2017 15:19

I'm currently reading my way through the Discworld novels and I'm continually impressed with just how perceptive Terry Pratchett was. The following lines from the one I'm reading at the moment (Feet of Clay) feels so relevant right now:

People said that there was one law for the rich and one law for the poor, but it wasn't true. There was no law for those who made the law, and no law for the incorrigibly lawless. All the laws and rules were for those people stupid enough to think like Cockbill Street people.

Cockbill Street is full of poor people who have more pride than money Sad

AcrossthePond55 · 07/05/2017 15:58

So not the CBO, but different 'entities with reason to know' (insurance experts, healthcare watchdog groups) are coming out with their estimates of how Trumpcare will affect the American People. And it's pretty bleak devastating. And it's going to strike hard at Trump's fan base.

One thing they're all agreeing on is that there will be a massive number of truly needful people (not just the 'needy', but also people 'doing ok', who simply don't have the extra income to pay such a hike) who will lose their insurance through inability to pay, jacked up co-pays and/or pre-existing conditions. And that a huge percentage of 'not needful' people (including DH and I) are going to get a nice fat tax credit that we don't really need.

And yet when confronted with this impartial evidence, the Trumpsters (rhymes with Dumpsters Grin) we know greet it with 'but Trump says....' and 'the Dems are........'. I just want to scream "Hey, idiots. I'm not Chicken Little. And this time the sky really, really IS falling!!!".

If anything remotely like the current measure is passed, a couple of them will be OK. But there are some who are going to wake up one morning crying "I have no insurance!!! What happened???". And as ashamed as it will make me, they will get a big fat "I TOLD YOU SO" from me.

cozietoesie · 07/05/2017 16:13

No they won't - and you know it deep down. Because you're trying to actually sort things. Smile

cozietoesie · 07/05/2017 16:14

I take it that the CBO are beavering away, though?

cozietoesie · 07/05/2017 16:17

The GOP are finished through this. Even the few that voted Nay are going to have a hard time defending their actions in general.

AcrossthePond55 · 07/05/2017 17:43

I take it that the CBO are beavering away, though?

I certainly hope so. But the CBO is a govt agency so who knows by whom or how much pressure will be put on them to delay or bury the results. Or to use 'Trump-thematics' to calculate the numbers.

The GOP are finished through this.`

Again I certainly hope so. But I know of more than one person who would cheerfully vote for Hitler, Gaddafi, or Lucifer himself if they were the GOP candidate rather than vote Dem. With the Trump election and the resulting ACHA as well as possible future law changes, they've already proven that they will cut off their own noses to spite their own faces rather than vote the better candidate. I have to admit to a Dem candidate bias, but I certainly hope that if the GOP candidate were to stand for what I believed in that I would vote GOP.

cozietoesie · 07/05/2017 17:47

I guess you have to wonder whether their determination to actually vote will be affected, though?

GingerIvy · 07/05/2017 17:51

Mark Cuban‏ @subzerov690 1h1 hour ago
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Daily reminder how sexist @realDonaldTrump & GOP thinks about #healthcare

C-section is pre-existing condition
Erectile Dysfunction is not

Stuffofawesome · 07/05/2017 18:09

This might help get the message over www.dailydot.com/layer8/send-ashes-coffins-death-trumpcare-ahca/

BiglyBadgers · 07/05/2017 18:17

Woman found guilty and faces year in jail for laughing at Jeff Sessions
www.independent.co.uk/news/jeff-sessions-woman-guilty-laughing-year-jail-sentence-code-pink-protester-a7716456.html

Lweji · 07/05/2017 18:46

What on earth happened to freedom of speech and not being politically correct?
Just for a selected few? Hmm

Lweji · 07/05/2017 18:47

And to telling it, or laughing it, like it is.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/05/2017 19:04

Thank goodness France hasn't lost its marbles too.

Lweji · 07/05/2017 19:13

And with an increased margin in relation to polls from a few days ago. It just shows that France is less amenable to disinformation, I suppose.

It's still worrying that Le Pen got about 35%.

GingerIvy · 07/05/2017 19:25

Haaretz.com‏Verified account @haaretzcom 13m13 minutes ago
WATCH LIVE: Le Pen gives concession speech
www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/LIVE-1.787654

GingerIvy · 07/05/2017 19:26

The Telegraph‏Verified account @Telegraph 11s12 seconds ago
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Marine Le Pen has conceded to Emmanuel Macron in a phone call and vowed to become major force of opposition www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/07/french-election-live-marine-le-pen-emmanuel-macron-presidency/

GingerIvy · 07/05/2017 19:27

Ian Birrell‏ @ianbirrell 2m2 minutes ago
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Ian Birrell Retweeted François Bayrou
'This says something great: in choosing the youngest president of the Republic, France is sending a message of hope to the world'

BiglyBadgers · 07/05/2017 19:28

Well, thank heavens for that. I don't think I could have coped with another crazed right wing nut in power. Grin

cozietoesie · 07/05/2017 19:29

I trust that 45 will be sending a 'gracious message of congratulation' to Macron in due course? Smile