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To refuse to sign the new tenancy agreement?

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mikesh909 · 27/04/2017 00:47

I have an assured short hold tenancy with a private landlord the fixed term of which expired recently. I am in the process of buying a property, so my time living here is coming to a close. Two unfortunate things have happened to complicate this situation. The first was that the end of the tenancy came along a month before my completion date, so I was forced to ask the landlord for a one month extension. He agreed to this. The second was that this property purchase fell through - another has since been agreed but it is back to square one with the paperwork so the one month extension no longer suffices. I thanked the LL for his flexibility in offering this, explained my change of circumstance and requested a rolling contract from now on, subject to the two month notice period my original contract requires.

Today arrived my new contract. It is a 6 month fixed term agreement, with a clause hidden at the back which states I shall pay a re-let levy of £850 if I leave the property before the term expires, which is highly likely. FWIW the property is a highly desirable one bedroom flat in a popular area. Two friends of mine have already expressed interest in taking on the lease when I leave - information which I have previously volunteered to the LL.

I have sought advice from Shelter today. They tell me as my original fixed term agreement has expired, legally what I have is a rolling contract until I sign something new. I am under no obligation to do so. Obviously, if I refuse to do so, the LL could start eviction proceedings if he wanted to. This would be 2 months notice + whatever time the eviction took, could be weeks or months according to Shelter. My estate agent advises a 10-12 week likely timescale for exchange of contracts, but obviously no guarantees can be made.

Would you advise...

a. Telling the LL / agent where to get off, i.e. that the re-let levy clause is a blatant attempt to profit from the uncertainty of my house purchase and refuse to sign the new contract. Suggest rolling contract continues and invite them to start eviction proceedings if that doesn't suit.

b. Stalling for the time being to extend the possible timeframes. [Agent has indicated his intention to collect the contract in person on Friday.... that certainly won't be happening]

c. Signing the contract and saying nothing, with the full intention that the last month's rent is withheld in lieu of a returned deposit, thus leaving them with no means of collecting their £850 re-let levy when I leave before October

d. Simply replying with an explanation that I'm unhappy with the terms of the contract and could they kindly reconsider whether the existing one can continue?

e. Sucking it up, signing the contract, and then contesting the validity of the re-let levy down the line. My deposit is protected and I could refuse to agree to have this deducted and go to court if necessary.

f. Something else?

Please talk me down from A, which the responsible bit of me knows is not the answer!

OP posts:
DalaHorse · 27/04/2017 18:40

Do you need landlord references for a mortgage? (I don't know, just asking).

Gallavich · 27/04/2017 19:17

No

innagazing · 28/04/2017 02:22

Another landlord here. I think the insistence for another fixed tenancy contract is probably coming from the EA who wants to charge another lot of exorbitant fees to the tenant for renewing the lease.
They are bastards. I'd advise that you try to discuss directly with the landlord. I really don't see why there would be a problem for the landlord to agree a periodic tenancy for the next few months. Your assurances that you'll be happy to co operate with showing new prospective tenants around should be received gratefully.
The landlord may not even be aware that you know people that would take over the tenancy- it's not in the EA's interests to pass this info on, as it makes it really easy for the landlord to stop using the EA.

annielouise · 28/04/2017 13:26

Dirtychailatte - you might disagree with my statement but the tenant wouldn't be doing anything that wasn't within their rights refusing viewings in the last month. After this stunt I would certainly not be putting myself out for them. It's up to the tenant though. They're under no legal or moral obligation to do so, so not sure why you'd disagree with it.

mikesh909 · 28/04/2017 13:46

Well, I sent this email this morning...

Dear X,

Thank you for your letter dated X and the tenancy documents enclosed. Having taken legal advice regarding the new terms of the contract, specifically the inclusion of a re-let levy at £850, I have decided it is not in my interests to enter into a further fixed term tenancy and I understand that I am under no obligation to do so. It is my understanding that my existing tenancy, the fixed term of which expired on April 22nd, has become periodic under s.5(2) of the Housing Act 1988 and it is my intention to continue with that tenancy until such a time as my property purchase is complete. Please be assured that I will give appropriate notice.

Yours etc

Received the following reply..

Dear Mikesh,

Thank you for letting us know.

X

How very satisfying to be right! Thanks to everyone for your input.

OP posts:
AyeAmarok · 28/04/2017 15:42

Great news! And £850 saved.

Bloody chancers, though.

Allthebestnamesareused · 28/04/2017 15:44

Hooray - a thread that has a conclusion and a happy outcome.

specialsubject · 28/04/2017 17:55

Yayyy!!! Bluff called and vanished in a puff of smoke!

Just one caution - keep the landlord posted of progress but absolutely do not give notice until you have exchange. As discussed he would be nuts to waste money on legals when you are going anyway.

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 28/04/2017 19:58

Yay!

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