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Aibu to ask her to clean up the fucking cake.

507 replies

Bigharibostrawberries · 22/04/2017 17:06

So over the holidays I've had a particular group of friends around. We met at baby group and now my only DD is seven, while they have gone on to have more. There's about half a dozen in the group and some I'm closer to than others, but in general we've got on well.

I live in a house with a bigger than average garden, and I used to be a childminder, so my house was always the obvious place to meet, and for a long time I didn't mind, but recently I've been feeling differently.

DD is at the age where she doesn't make so much of a mess, so we've been redecorating, buying a few nice bits for the house and garden. When my friends visit, their children just pull the place apart. Well, some are OK, there's a few in particular that are just really rough. I know small children will do that, and I childproof my house as much as possible, but if I'm honest DD certainly wasn't allowed to do it at other people's houses and they don't even attempt to get their children to stop. I've had things smashed, walls drawn on etc. These children have managed to damage my house more than all my mindees put together, so I don't think I'm being precious

So as not to drip feed, DH and I have struggled with secondary infertility, and our one shot at IVF failed just before Christmas. It has been hard, but we are moving on and I now feel very much done with babies and toddlers. Maybe that's why my patience is wearing thin. We've also had lots going on with new jobs, family illness etc, and I could have done with some support, but felt very sidelined when I tried to talk to my friends. One of the group has constant marital problems which tend to dominate.

So they visited a few days ago and I wasn't particularly looking forward to it, but I made Easter nests, organised a little egg hunt etc. Some of them didn't bring their eldest children due to other commitments, and the 6/7 year olds who did come were three boys that DD doesn't really get on with, so essentially I was entertaining a group of babies and toddlers while the older boys tore off down the garden and DD sat and played on her own. I was a bit annoyed at that to begin with. I decided I was going to be a bit firmer over the wrecking the house issue, so when one child started grinding cake into the carpet, I asked him to sit at the table to eat it. His mum is the one who dominates conversation, bit of a queen bee if I'm honest, and she got really arsey and said "he's fine where he is". I pointed out he was squashing the cake everywhere, and she said "for goodness sake, he's only two."

And, well, this is where I was probably unreasonable, but I said "ok then, I'll just leave a little packet of wipes on the table if you wouldn't mind cleaning it up when he is finished?"

She said "excuse me?" and I sort of laughed and said "the cake- it will save me hoovering it later". She didn't say a word to me after that, had a face on her like a busted boot, and soon left, without saying goodbye.

We have a group Whatsapp, and later that afternoon I was removed from the group. I texted another of the mums who I am closest to and asked why. She said cake mum had removed me because she felt unwelcome in my house, my IVF failure had made me bitter, she felt threatened, I was jealous of her baby etc.

I said that's fine and as far as I was concerned she could fuck off, and she wouldn't be welcome in my house anymore

Cue a flurry of fb and whatsapp messages from the other mums, telling me I needed to apologise to cake mum because I had been unfair and I'd forgotten how tiring it was to have small children, that sort of thing.

If I'm honest I started to think maybe they were right. I was a bit sick of them all coming round and yes it was hard at times to be surrounded by babies /pregnancy when we were struggling

At this point DH came home
I showed him the texts. He said that in his opinion they were shitting themselves because now they had nowhere to go to be fed/ignore their kids. Also that even if I made it up with them, he didn't want them to come round en mass again, because he had thought for some time that they were taking the piss out of me. Basically he put the foot down,which is something DH rarely does.

So by this point I had been readded to the whatsapp group. I told cake mum that I was sorry for anything I had said to upset her, and I hoped we could all remain friends. I then said that perhaps in future we could meet at a park or something which would be easier for all concerned.

Cake mum and some of the other mums then got arsey, said I clearly didn't want them round my house, I couldn't cope with my ivf related bitterness and

OP posts:
restart2008 · 24/04/2017 23:00

I know i am very late to add to this, and i don't know if you're still reading this OP. I have had similar IVF experience. And similar experience with groups of mums and queen bees. Just the fact that they are telling you that you are bitter because of your IVF immediately tells you they aren't friends. Don't even let that thought in your head , they are completely out of order. I have also removed myself from various threads, but not with the same spectacular style as you!!. I now feel so much better, i see fewer people but the ones i give time to are worth it. I agree with the people who say find friends for your DD and focus your efforts on people who are worth it. Big hugs and Flowers hope it gets better for you. And your DH sounds fab xxx

Writermom22 · 24/04/2017 23:01

They are following queen bitch cake mum and taking the piss, royally. Tell the lot of them to get stuffed and if they want to call round one by one, they know who you are.

Leave them all and concentrate on your own family and happiness, this is not the schoolyard anymore, you don't need anyone's approval! Xxx

Writermom22 · 24/04/2017 23:02

Where you are, not who you are. Xx

HurricaneHalle · 24/04/2017 23:07

You've had a lucky escape. The silver lining to your recent hospitality is that you've seen Cake Mum in her true light and it's given you the opportunity to sack her off. I mean How Bastard Rude is she?

If that was my child regardless of their age, as soon as crumbs started falling the child would be taken to the table/outside and I'd be on my hands and knees making right any mess. I mean it's BASIC MANNERS and RESPECT.

You sound lovely. It's completely their loss. They know it too.

Terrirocks34 · 24/04/2017 23:13

If you were rude then I could understand her reaction. Regardless of ages of your children that doesn't entitle you to wreck someone else's home. Maybe you have kind of let your self be used a little bit so they don't understand your reaction.very childish thought with removal from group etc perhaps you need to get new circle of friends.

HurricaneHalle · 24/04/2017 23:16

The nasty and bang out of order IVF comments are absolutely unforgivable.

I'm so sorry.

Xanadu44 · 24/04/2017 23:42

Urgh. They sound like selfish bellends who only think of themselves!! You definitely did the right thing!!

MsJolly · 24/04/2017 23:45

Ah just fuck 'em-thoughtless bitchey cows.

Now, where did you say you love agin! Think it will rain tomorrow and need somewhere to take DD-she loves cake!😆😆😆

MsJolly · 24/04/2017 23:45

Live not love ffs

Venusflytwat · 24/04/2017 23:56

You sound fab. I want to be your friend! I have no small children and the only place I put cake is in my massive mouth :)

crispinquent · 24/04/2017 23:57

YANBU and DH is right

oldstudentmum · 25/04/2017 00:12

This woman is a twunt. You so deserve better friends and yes she and others taking the piss sorry for swearing. If a child ( don't care hoe old) and ru bed into carpet or anything I would give them a wet wipe or similar and ask them to clear up I could not give a rats ass if parents had a problem my house you have respect or you are not allowed for a while. Some women think themselves so high and mighty. Where is the bloody respect for others homes.
I am prob a lot older than you and her but with age comes get responsibility and (a sense of fuck em twats mentaility) you are bitter and twisted sounds like she is very jealous of your life and home and mainly you ... she is jealous of you! . Bloody alpha moms they are twats. And their children will be.
Say you were in my house your child drops or does that I don't make a sound and dance I just give child a cloth etc and just say oh no wipe it up then. Fuck the parent it's my house my rules.
But on a lighter note I love that bloody cake pic that's my kind of thing I would have done that as well, oh you should bake one and send it to her " with love" lol
You Are bitter and twisted seriously what a NASTY cow she is the one who is bitter you are not but you know that . You allow people into your home and her little Buddha messes about with no boundaries from alpha mom . That woman is a total twat, but that kid will total mAke her life horrible in a few years no boundaries etc omg ha ha good pay back for here. Reap what yousow

SnugglyBedSocks · 25/04/2017 04:21

OP - any update?

Bigharibostrawberries · 25/04/2017 07:23

Thank you all for your kind words, I'm getting that smug and justified feeling Grin

No updates really, apparently cake mum has been posting many of those vague FB status pictures things up- you know, the photos of a beautiful woman looking out at a misty lake with "other people might bring you down but you are strong" shit. Might be directed at my carrot cake, might not. Hard to tell and I don't care. I genuinely don't give a shiny shit. Most of the other mums in the group, I haven't heard a squeak from. The nice mums have been nice but I don't think I'll carry their friendship much past the odd going out for coffee, if that. It's almost a bit sad that I'm so relieved

I honestly feel that I've cut away so much dead wood. We did a clear out on the strength of cake mum's antics. I ended up cleaning the house top to bottom, rearranging things etc and we're going to do a car boot next Sunday and put the money towards going away somewhere for a long weekend, next Halloween holidays Grin

OP posts:
MummaGiles · 25/04/2017 07:33

My DS is 2. If he started rubbing cake into my or anyone else's carpet I would be mortified. At that age he knows not to do that. Under 1, ok fair enough they are exploring food/textures etc, but at 2 cake mum's child really shouldn't be doing that and her reaction just shows how lazy her parenting is. You are better if without these leeches. Sorry for your IVF struggles (and fwiw friends wouldn't say you are bitter because of it - that is unbelievable!)

TheTabardOfDoom · 25/04/2017 07:54

OP I've had a good clear out of idiots from my life. It has included quite a few family members who assumed it was OK to treat me like shit. Boy it feels goooood though to only have people in my life that treat me decent. There should be a word in the English language for doing this actual thing Grin

kittybiscuits · 25/04/2017 09:21

Always a good feeling to give frenemies the boot Wink

DramaQueenofHighCs · 25/04/2017 09:27

Cake mum sounds AWFUL!!
When my DS(now 8) was 2 we went to a friend's house for a drama group meetup. We had a buffet lunch and we sat outside on one of their many lovely picnic rugs - I took my eyes off DS for ten seconds to then find him squashing banana into the rug!! I was mortified and instantly sought out the host to apologise and ask for something to clean it with/offer to get it cleaned. Yes, these things do happen occasionally, but Never would the thought of excusing the incident with "He's only two" and thinking I could 'get away with it' ever have crossed my mind. I'm by far not the most perfect parent in the world, but it's just basic manners surely!

You are better off without her, but by all means keep the more supportive friends, though personally I would be having words with them about why they won't openly support you in front of cake mum.

Mammyashy1 · 25/04/2017 10:41

The only thing you did wrong is say sorry. Yes children are tiring but that's no excuse and cake mom shouldn't have to be asked to clean up the cake she should have been watching her child and cleaned up!

user1492528619 · 25/04/2017 10:42

My God OP, you were restrained. I would have wiped her face in it.

You are worth so much more than those shitty people, they aren't your friends. Walk away and find people who respect and appreciate how wonderful you are.

Funkimama77 · 25/04/2017 10:44

Bitches, how dare anyone bring a failed ivf cycle into the same conversation as teaching ur child good manners, Cake Mum sounds like a self absorbed ignorant individual, I wouldn't want people like that in my house, selfish individuals!

Snf13 · 25/04/2017 12:14

YANBU!! And you have been far too nice by leaving the wipes next to this woman! I would have forced her to clean up the mess herself! She is obviously being extremely rude! What type of person feels entitled to come to someone else's place, be fed and welcomed, and trash the place? It's the basis of politeness to treat others' belongings with respect. She obviously has no education and no respect for you, and she isn't teaching her children to respect others either!
You don't need this kind of people in your life. Your partner is completely right. Thus woman is a bully and the other mums are just (excuse my French) 'shitting themselves' that she'll exclude them from the group. It's like 'mean girls', except we're not at school anymore but they all act like teenagers who want to be friends with the popular one. If they don't side with you, just let them be. You need better friends.
And also, mentioning your struggles with conceiving as a reason for 'being bitter' is ludicrous and petty from them! You are not bitter (and even if you were, they should be understanding and supportive) you are just a decent person who is asking to be respected as much as you would respect others! I think what you did is the right thing, and you're also teaching your DD that no one is entitled to request respect from you if they don't give it back!
I think you should be very proud of yourself!! Smile

Winniethepee · 25/04/2017 12:35

Best cake ever! I salute you!

babybat · 25/04/2017 12:48

OP - if you ever need to send them another cake, may I suggest this one?

Aibu to ask her to clean up the fucking cake.
Rachel0Greep · 25/04/2017 12:55

YANBU OP, they were completely and utterly out of order with comments about your ivf etc.

I love the 'face like a busted boot' and am going to use it! Grin
Ugh, can just imagine the Facebook pics, and the 'you ok hun' stuff. Ignore!