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Aibu to ask her to clean up the fucking cake.

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Bigharibostrawberries · 22/04/2017 17:06

So over the holidays I've had a particular group of friends around. We met at baby group and now my only DD is seven, while they have gone on to have more. There's about half a dozen in the group and some I'm closer to than others, but in general we've got on well.

I live in a house with a bigger than average garden, and I used to be a childminder, so my house was always the obvious place to meet, and for a long time I didn't mind, but recently I've been feeling differently.

DD is at the age where she doesn't make so much of a mess, so we've been redecorating, buying a few nice bits for the house and garden. When my friends visit, their children just pull the place apart. Well, some are OK, there's a few in particular that are just really rough. I know small children will do that, and I childproof my house as much as possible, but if I'm honest DD certainly wasn't allowed to do it at other people's houses and they don't even attempt to get their children to stop. I've had things smashed, walls drawn on etc. These children have managed to damage my house more than all my mindees put together, so I don't think I'm being precious

So as not to drip feed, DH and I have struggled with secondary infertility, and our one shot at IVF failed just before Christmas. It has been hard, but we are moving on and I now feel very much done with babies and toddlers. Maybe that's why my patience is wearing thin. We've also had lots going on with new jobs, family illness etc, and I could have done with some support, but felt very sidelined when I tried to talk to my friends. One of the group has constant marital problems which tend to dominate.

So they visited a few days ago and I wasn't particularly looking forward to it, but I made Easter nests, organised a little egg hunt etc. Some of them didn't bring their eldest children due to other commitments, and the 6/7 year olds who did come were three boys that DD doesn't really get on with, so essentially I was entertaining a group of babies and toddlers while the older boys tore off down the garden and DD sat and played on her own. I was a bit annoyed at that to begin with. I decided I was going to be a bit firmer over the wrecking the house issue, so when one child started grinding cake into the carpet, I asked him to sit at the table to eat it. His mum is the one who dominates conversation, bit of a queen bee if I'm honest, and she got really arsey and said "he's fine where he is". I pointed out he was squashing the cake everywhere, and she said "for goodness sake, he's only two."

And, well, this is where I was probably unreasonable, but I said "ok then, I'll just leave a little packet of wipes on the table if you wouldn't mind cleaning it up when he is finished?"

She said "excuse me?" and I sort of laughed and said "the cake- it will save me hoovering it later". She didn't say a word to me after that, had a face on her like a busted boot, and soon left, without saying goodbye.

We have a group Whatsapp, and later that afternoon I was removed from the group. I texted another of the mums who I am closest to and asked why. She said cake mum had removed me because she felt unwelcome in my house, my IVF failure had made me bitter, she felt threatened, I was jealous of her baby etc.

I said that's fine and as far as I was concerned she could fuck off, and she wouldn't be welcome in my house anymore

Cue a flurry of fb and whatsapp messages from the other mums, telling me I needed to apologise to cake mum because I had been unfair and I'd forgotten how tiring it was to have small children, that sort of thing.

If I'm honest I started to think maybe they were right. I was a bit sick of them all coming round and yes it was hard at times to be surrounded by babies /pregnancy when we were struggling

At this point DH came home
I showed him the texts. He said that in his opinion they were shitting themselves because now they had nowhere to go to be fed/ignore their kids. Also that even if I made it up with them, he didn't want them to come round en mass again, because he had thought for some time that they were taking the piss out of me. Basically he put the foot down,which is something DH rarely does.

So by this point I had been readded to the whatsapp group. I told cake mum that I was sorry for anything I had said to upset her, and I hoped we could all remain friends. I then said that perhaps in future we could meet at a park or something which would be easier for all concerned.

Cake mum and some of the other mums then got arsey, said I clearly didn't want them round my house, I couldn't cope with my ivf related bitterness and

OP posts:
Aimeeandbaby1 · 24/04/2017 20:13

YANBU. Husband is right. Cake Mum is a dick. Don't put up with that shit OP! You sound like you deserve much better friends , which will come naturally over time. Sorry about your failed IVF, we've been trying for two years for a second baby with no luck. They've been insensitive to this issue by calling you bitter.

Turquoise123 · 24/04/2017 20:17

Loving the cake. I bet this was very upsetting but sound like you dealt with it really well - and how nice your husband sounds

MyGastIsFlabbered · 24/04/2017 20:18

Please be my friend OP! Is it wrong I want to change my name to FuckYouCake?

MrsC45 · 24/04/2017 20:21

So sorry to hear your had such a bad time. YANBU. They are taking the piss. It doesn't matter how tired you are, you should clean up after your own kids, you shouldn't complain if someone asks your precious one to eat at the table. Sounds like this group has had it's day. When I had one over 6 I used to hate it when parents palmed off their tiny ones on me, as once your past a stage you don't want the hassle of tiny ones, not when there's no benefit for your own LO. And the comments about your IFV, well that's unreal and cruel and far far worse than a few comments about cleaning up cake! Good on your DH for looking out for your best interests. Time to move on. All the best Flowers

LizzyELane · 24/04/2017 20:28

Jeez. Get rid of toxic cake 'friend'. If others side wirh her they are people I'd NOT want spend time with. Life too short.

littleliving · 24/04/2017 20:41

OP I am so angry for you. How dare she!! I have zero self restraint and I'd have had some very choice words for her!
My younger sister, when she was 15, used to go over to a girl's house with her friends. She constantly bitched about her, and transpires they all just used her for her large house that her parents regularly left her alone in. Your post reminds me of that, mean girls using you, how childish of them. Removing you from the chat, how immature. I can actually feel my blood boiling just reading this!

Kithulu · 24/04/2017 20:52

I think you should have dumped them at ' they didn't even bring their children who were the same age as your DD' !
-and if my child made a mess eating, of course I would clean it up myself without even being asked! Cake mum is a cow and you are best off without.

ataraxia · 24/04/2017 20:55

Bemused that they have no sense of minding/guiding their own children on a basic level - if they really were friends, they should have been on alert protect your belongings (where practical) from their kids, and hep with watching out for what the other kids are doing.

Seems really reasonable to ask the child to stop and mother should have reinforced this, not ignored your wishes in your own house - if she can't/won't say no to her kid then take him to a room with a wipe clean floor. Ever more unreasonable to think she has some sort of right for her son to do it (I'm your guest so you must let my son trash your house - WTF?!) and to balk at what should have been the bare minimum; clean the damn mess up.

If your DD was just learning to spray paint, would it be OK for her to do it on cakemum's garage door? And cakemum to clean it up? She's only 7, doesn't have a garage door of her own.

Would have set alarm bells ringing that anyone else should think she deserves the apology but completely beyond the pale to bring the IVF up. You haven't described friends, you've described freeloaders. To be honest you'd have been well within your rights to be bitter (and friends would understand how you feel) - but hosting up to 15 kids does not sound like someone who is bitter/unable to be around babies.

Sounds like a few privately contacting you but seems a shame that more didn't publicly stand up for you - seems like a high school clique as adults. Well rid, if you ask me!

Great cake!

LBuck · 24/04/2017 20:55

YANBU at all OP I would be mortified if my 2year did anything like that and would be on my hands and knees immediately cleaning it up.

Ravenesque · 24/04/2017 21:06

Cake woman is the bitter one, though what she's actually bitter about I don't know. Maybe that you have a lovely home? A lovely daughter? A caring husband? Who knows, but for anyone to throw your IVF problems at you and tell you that you're bitter because of it, well that is so low, so utterly disgusting, I don't have words. If she cared a damn about what you've been through, she'd be extra nice, bring flowers, offer a shoulder, ensured that her fucking children don't mess up your home.

Far from BU, you are a woman who has reached the end of her tether with a group of mean girls, lead by Queen Bee who is a bully and frankly I wish all bad things on her! I'm glad that you've told them to do one, I'm glad that your husband is supportive, I'm glad that you have a lovely seven year old daughter and I hope that as you get over your IVF not working, your life gets better and brighter and happier than ever.

Donnaann63 · 24/04/2017 21:07

Tell them all to get lost
There using you and your home
There not real friends..
You can do better ...

Scrammymummy · 24/04/2017 21:08

What a nasty group of women! I would never let my child do that in someone else's home & whilst I am a bit more relaxed with guests, I would expect them to step in if their child was grinding bloody cake into my carpet!

Sounds like you're better of without them, anyone who throws fertility issues in someone's face is just not worth bothering with, that is unbelievably low. Love the cake pic, well done!

Have you tried Mush? It's a new website/app aimed at helping mums make new local friends. Bit like a dating app for mums Smile

field10 · 24/04/2017 21:10

You are most definitely NOT being unreasonable. I would have gone a step further and got her the hoover out. It is not in my opinion acceptable behaviour from mother or child. If my child did that at someones house i would be mortified and be the first to offer to clean it up and i would take the cake away from my child. You don't need 'friends' like that in your life. I think your Husband is right (i would normally never say a husband is right) But i think he has just tolerated it because he didn't want to upset you, unlike your 'friend'. I would let them find someone else's house to take over.

beautygal29 · 24/04/2017 21:12

What a sht shower of btches! I'm also going through secondary infertility so if you ever need a friend or want to talk please message me. I think the fact that they've used something painful that your going through to excuse their sh*tty behaviour is just vile. Some people are just so rude and disgusting you are better off without them as they absolutely don't deserve you! xx

Sparklyglitter · 24/04/2017 21:33

You will be So much happier and less stressed without them! Mean girls! Good luck with everything! Smile

Lickedthespoon · 24/04/2017 22:01

Life is too short to be surrounded by people who make you unhappy - well done for getting rid

MrsC45 · 24/04/2017 22:02

Glad to see all the positive love on this thread. Hope it makes you feel a bit better. Onwards and upwards 😊

Tapandgo · 24/04/2017 22:05

You are a saint to have put up with these lowlife for so long. I brought up two lads with a year between them and never let them stamp cake into my carpets at any age - let alone into someone else's! They sound an ungrateful 'take/take' crew and need to develop some social skills. You are well shot of them. As for saying you are bitter - scummy comment from scummy people. I agree with your DH's observations - funny how none of them offered up their own houses/carpets to be demolished.

Reebs123 · 24/04/2017 22:11

You don't need friends like that. I'll b your friend. You sound like a nice person but I think CakeBitch& her friends were just using you. If the others ignore you now then you should be happy to be free of those toxic people. The trash took itself out! Sorry about your IVF. Real friends don't ignore it but then bring it up in a nasty way. No1 would want their house to be trashed,regardless of failed IVF attempt. Glad your hub spoke up. Any updates?

Reebs123 · 24/04/2017 22:12

A 2yo should know better. My 18m baby wouldn't be allowed to do that at home

Attitude84 · 24/04/2017 22:30

You shouldn't have said sorry, you didn't do anything wrong. How would that cake mum like your child crushing cake in to her carpet? They are wrong to be taking the piss, your husband is right. I think cake mum is jealous of you, having free time, a nice house and things. I think maybe you need to drop these friends and find better ones.

Frazzledstar1 · 24/04/2017 22:31

YANBU, I don't let my toddler eat cake on my carpet let alone someone else's. In fact I would make my 4yo ds sit at the table too.

The comments they made re your ivf struggles were completely out of line, that is not something friends would say. Seems like they're just a bunch of freeloaders.

UnicornRider · 24/04/2017 22:47

Having suffered from infertility and then after treatment - multiple miscarriages (all this after my ds was concieved and born with 0 issues) - my heart breaks for you. I couldn't bear to be near pregnant people but was ok with babies. I hope they checked you were comfortable being around lil people so soon? Cake mum clearly knew and chose to use it against you - what an ugly person Angry YANBU
If you don't hold the women and the gatherings close to your heart, my advice would be drop them. You don't need sort of negativity in your life Flowers

YerMa76 · 24/04/2017 22:52

Cake Mum sounds like a right bitch who is just pissed that she'll have nowhere to go now.
Well rid by the sounds of it.

colourdilemma · 24/04/2017 22:56

Thread might have moved on, but please, op, don't start questioning whether you may or may not have appeared bitter at any point or intolerant of babies. It's irrelevant. I've been through infertility and miscarriages and I'm totally sure at times I came off as bitter. Thing is, my friends either didn't notice, or they realised I was having a horrible time and reacting to it in a pretty natural way. I reckon they knew it wasn't the real me and let me off the hook. They're my friends.

I've also been in the perpetual host situation, for all the reasons you describe (apart from being a childminder) and in the end I decided it wasn't worth it and that was without horrible behaviour from the adults. I was running around Loki g after everyone and my dad wasn't enjoying the meet ups at all. I think you've done the right thing to stop the hosting and the attitude of the others is horrific. My group started meeting at toddlers or in parks instead. Hope you find a group of friends who deserve you!

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