AIBU to loathe the Royal Family

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The way the media is so gushing about everything Wills, Kate and Harry do, just been watching the evening news, there is a story about Wills and Kate doing a radio broadcast, makes me want to vomit..
And the issues about mental health - really? Do we need Royal 'endorsement' just to get more funding?

The abolition of the French monarchy certainly wasn't caused because of "jealousy", it was because the people were sickened by the excesses of wealth and privilege at a time when the majority had nothing. It was the whole injustice and inequality between the haves and the have nots. It's ridiculous to suggest people who are against a monarchy here are motivated by "jealousy.

What I find interesting in the last few years is how the public react when they try and show us their human side. Years ago when their popularity waned, they would do something to try and improve their image and the public would swallow it and they were beloved again. Now the public are not swallowing any of it. I think the monarchy will be in big trouble once the queen passes away.

It's good if it helps mental health, I hope it does.

I think Kate giving her tuppence worth about being a new mum weakened their message which is a shame.

I agree Julia, i also hate the way their every word is hung onto when they're attending a function, then if they say something even remotely funny everyone roars with laughter. It's painful to watch.

I agree with songlark and Julia - being born into a position of privilege doesn't make a person an authority on any given subject; quite the reverse when the Royals can have no real concept of the struggles ordinary people might face. For instance, MH issues for the Royals are not going to carry the threat of losing a job and living in poverty, or being unable to look after yourself and your home so you slide into physical ill-health and squalor.

This was all otganised long before dad dancing gate....

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The abolition of the French monarchy certainly wasn't caused because of "jealousy", it was because the people were sickened by the excesses of wealth and privilege at a time when the majority had nothing.

But the abolition of the British Monarchy won't mean there's suddenly a pool of wealth available to sort all our problems out. We'll have to get rid of all the politicians and some others too.

I just can't get worked up enough to 'loathe' someone who I'm never going to be sat around drinking tea with.

Why? Aren't new mums at risk of post natal depression?

Why should Kate mentioning it be met with negativity ?

So come on then, which one of you whinging about the monarchy is going to start off this 'revolution'?

quite the reverse when the Royals can have no real concept of the struggles ordinary people might face

See I'm struggling with comments like this. Highlighting Harrys MH is showing that MH doesn't discriminate on who it affects. Why can he have no real concept of something he's suffered from just because he's a Royal?

I think Kate giving her tuppence worth about being a new mum weakened their message which is a shame.

How?

I also disagree that the people who oppose the monarchy are motivated by jealousy/bitterness. I don't envy them at all, just feel there is no place for monarchy in today's world.

I don't know how if they have intelligence/sensitivity they handle being fawned over the way they are, how do they keep straight faces?

I think the bizarre lives they lead cannot be good for them as human beings. Yes it is painful to see people hang on their every words and laugh at their unfunny jokes….here in the real world, we are so used to/dependant on feedback from others and adjusting our conduct accordingly: eg. if I tell a joke and nobody laughs I won't bother telling it again.

It must be so weird not having that; maybe they end up genuinely feeling superior as a result?

Away As you quoted in your post, I said he had 'no real concept of the struggles ordinary people might face' - not that he had no concept of MH issues.

I always think that it is impressive when someone in the public eye, like Prince Harry, admits to having sought help for MH issues.

Yes I know asmoto I read your post and my question remains the same as my last post as quoted here.

Why can he have no real concept of something he's suffered from just because he's a Royal

The something he's suffered being the Mental health. It was self explanatory really.

Pitiless I don't. For Harry, seeking help means immediate access to counselling, not being stuck on an 8 month NHS waiting list. If he is prescribed anything, there will be doctors on hand to monitor his every symptom - he won't be sent away to try one drug for six months and then another on a trial and error basis. He's not going to have to go through absence management procedure if he's unable to work, or apply for benefits and have to justify himself. If he feels too ill to get out of bed, staff will be there to cook and clean for him.

I agree, none of the external palliatives would change the fact that he might be feeling terrible inside, and I sympathise with him, but his experience and the support available will be vastly different from that of the average person on the street with the same problems.

Away Where did I say he he had 'no real concept of something he's suffered from'? I said the Royals have 'no real concept of the struggles ordinary people might face'.

Yes and that's the same thing is it not? MH is something that ordinary people struggle with/suffer from, and it just so happens to be it is something Harry has also struggled with / suffered from. He just happens to be Royal.

YANBU. Bunch of inbred thieves and scroungers

You sound lovely onthecouch!

When the Queen dies, I think many people might support a referendum on continuing with the monarchy or something similar. If the majority no longer want a monarchy, of course it may make sense not to continue. But saying they cause inequality is extreme. The US does not have a monarchy, and obviously there are extremes of rich and poor, and Norway, Denmark and Sweden manage to be fairly equal societies with Royal families. The Royal family themselves did not ask for their position, and can be irritating sometimes, but mostly manage to be fairly decent people. Prince Harry was also not commenting on health care for psychotic mental illness, but simply trying to encourage people, particularly young men, to be open about their emotions and to consider seeking counselling help if it may benefit them. I don't see what is wrong with this, particularly as suicide rates in this group of people are quite high.

Away No, it isn't the same thing. As I explained in my previous post, the support available to a Royal with MH issues is very different from the support available to an ordinary member of the public.

Lizzzar There's nothing wrong with Harry encouraging young men to seek help, as long as he realises that there might be a very long waiting list for help to be available outside the Royal bubble.

Well having suffered from MH myself asmoto I am aware of that. I still don't have sour grapes about Harry possibly getting immediate access to help like some on this thread. No one knows the ins and outs of what really went on and how long he was suffering for before he got that help.

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