AIBU to not understand why "normal" people vote Tory?

[olddogsnewtricks]

OK, so I'll probably get flamed for this but am genuinely interested! All the people I know who vote Tory are pretty well off so use private schools and healthcare. As a family we need the NHS and we need a good education system - and I can't see them getting any better under the Tories. Are these just not priorities for Tory voters or do they really believe they will improve even with a Conservative government?

I love the way people call Tory voters 'thick' when the irony is most of them will have had a better education and have a better standard of living than the average Labour voter hmm
Only because they not been disadvantaged at birth.Attending better school and having better standard of living does not mean you actually have brains,but you were lucky to be born in better off families.

I voted Tory once (NOT in recent years)
I voted for the only MP that gave a shit about our local area (deprived area) as I didn't know which party to vote for so voted by individual instead IYKWIM

As I said, the area was deprived, so you would think it would be labour's bread and butter.. well the info from the labour candidate for the area said nothing, NOTHING, specific to the area or it's issues, and was just a lazy rehash of labours main general policies. The libdem canditate had their knickers all in a twist about their pet issue and said nothing whatsoever about anything else. Greens seemed to be talking about a completely different area to me.. but the conservative candidate seemed to know the area, its issues, and its needs.

I wasn't swayed at the time by a particular party (it was the Blair "new labour" era). So I decided to vote on local issues and for an individual MP.

Nothing woolly about those thoughts woollythoughts, I have a similar background and agree with your conclusions.

OP You've asked a goady question which demonstrates your ignorance & speaks volumes about you. That's why you're not getting many answers.

Of the working class people I know that vote Tory. Most are the following types in my opinion.

They are the aspirational working/middle classes. They read the Daily Mail and have the mindset that Tories are for the hardworking who are doing alright, Labour are for the scroungers.

Their parents vote for Tory and they are heavily influenced by this, they believe Margaret Thatcher was the greatest PM we ever had.

They believe any snippet they see in the media about benefits or immigration without looking at policies or history.

They trust Tories more with the economy and believe a better economy will trickle down to them.

They hate Jeremy Corbyn/Gordon Brown/Ed Miliband.

Complete political ignorance.

They think on a local level and want to support their MP.

"Speaks volumes"

Do you really think so?

Have you actually read all the hostile responses? I realise you didn't post them, but the intolerant atmosphere has been created nevertheless. And you simply won't get answers in a thread once it has turned like that.

Maybe op you should be asking who the hell should people vote for when Corbyn is a joke and the lib Dems worse than ineffective?

I am a labour voter but cannot in any way support Corbyn as my country is more important than my party and he would be dreadful.

Because I have faith in TM, Jeremy Corbyn is a bumbling twat. There's been significant economic growth under Tories and I'm happy with that. Schools and the NHS are ticking over

I don't vote Tory, but my husband does. It really annoys me when people assume that just because someone votes Tory, then education, healthcare etc are not a priority for them. They are absolutely a priority for DH - it's just that he believes that the Tories have the best way of delivering that. I disagree wholeheartedly, but he's as much entitled to his opinion as I am mine. And he is neither thick, evil or selfish

Have you actually read all the hostile responses? I realise you didn't post them

Yes, but as you pointed out, I didn't post them! I really don't want this to be a goady thread, could we just limit it to what I actually asked i.e. what do Tory voters think of the government's approach to the NHS and schools and is it important as an election issue?

I love the way people call Tory voters 'thick' - makes a change from calling Brexiteers thick!

Im voting UKIP and if for any reason I cant Im going Tory (NEVER thought Id say that EVER).only because Mays ramming in the Brexitting. otherwise I agree with user 1471

But whats the alternative?

Jesus Corbyn and his disciple Dianne abbot? Now theres a case for thick.

Lb dems whos leader doesn't even know what the word Democrat in his own party means? THICK!

Nicola Sturgeon SNP? womans only in it for herself, not Scotland.

The Tories can do what they like as there is no real threat from the opposition.
Having been to a few other countries the tories look bloody lovely by comparison. It is all relative. I don't vote Tory but I don't see them as particularly bad.
Try living in Brazil or Greece or other medium income countries and see where it gets you in terms of funding for social healthcare and education.

he believes that the Tories have the best way of delivering that.

I realise that this was your husband, not you, but I would really like to know more! I genuinely have not come across anyone who thinks their approach to schooling is good (and I have a lot of family working in education).

And see the sneery patronising attitudes here that Tory voters are thick, racist, ignorant are precisely why labour is doing so badly.

Ignoring people's concerns and telling them 'it's ok you don't understand' and sneering at them as Abbot (comps are fine but not for my child) Corbyn (racism is horrible but hey it's ok to be anti Semitic and the stupid bint who tweeted a house with an English flag outside to gleefully take the piss are precisely why Brexit happened and precisely why labour is in decline.

I'm currently a single parent on benefits, I voted Tory when I was earning £40k a year (last election) and will do so again in June.
I have voted Lib dem & labour at various points in the past.

I am not ignorant, politically or otherwise; I am not a sociopath either.

I simply believe that the tories are the party that I trust the most at this particular time.
I like Theresa May & most of her cabinet at the mo and I believe the tories are better able to deliver Brexit, as well as liking TM's vision for the country.

Labour are currently a shambles, Corbyn is an incompetent arse, and the Lib Dems have set themselves up as little more than a one-policy party (anti-Brexit).

Also agree with Batgirl.

I'm not going to vote Tory again but I don't know who I will vote for, none of the others have their act together! I'll probably vote lib dem, labour or independent. Definitely not green (unfortunately, I'ld love a decent green party but Green are not it IMO)...

Schools and the NHS are ticking over
How would you explain increases in waiting times to see a GP with the NHS (as a start) over the last 10 years?

How do you explain the mass exodus of teachers in the last 10 years? How do you think the shortage of MFL teachers will be managed post-Brexit? Why are class sizes on the increase and teaching assistants on the decrease? What other profession needs to advertise continually on TV, i the national press and the radio to get new recruits?

Single working parent here that voted Tory I'd take your blinkers off if I was you

I'd rather keep them on so I don't have to see you. You're a turkey voting for Christmas.

For me, it is defence, Brexit and the economy. The Tories are the only party I think are competent to deal with these issues, although I want to see far more defence spending.

I think we need a debate about the NHS; there are other models that we could examine.

I think that some voters will vote Conservative in June because they prefer May as a leader to any of the other parties' leaders.

All the members of my family who reached a good income started voting Conservative because that's just "what you do" despite being staunchly Labour before

And how about labour finally putting forward s women for the top job? Old labour is very mysogynistic.

You may be suprised that I voted labour always. Not now. Not till this shower of Corbyn and Abbot go.

God, what a nasty thread! thick, ignorant, sociopaths, selfish, nasty.

How totally RUDE.

Every voter has their own reasons for voting in the way they do. Some people put a lot of thought into it and follow every interview and debate, others tick the same box each and every time. Some are hung up on a very specific issue, and vote for a particular party because their beliefs are mirrored in that respect.

It's plain wrong to start slinging accusations that any group of voters is nasty, thick or ignorant. I might personally think that SNP voters are deluded and short-sighted, but I'm mature enough to realise that they've probably put as much thought into their stance as I have into mine, and as long as they don't tie me to a chair and force me to watch Nicola Sturgeon on repeat, I won't start calling them names. Conservative voters NEVER start threads like this calling left-wingers all sorts of names but it's OK the other way round?

Bit of respect, people.

(Disclaimer: classic floating voter. Have voted Lib Dem, Labour and Conservative in the past. I do not think it's that healthy to tie your political colours to a mast aged 18 and never deviate from that).

Yes, many left wingers may be politically ignorant but at least in their ignoranice they are not voting for policies that will be directly harmful to them.

That's not true though is it. By keeping Corbyn as leader, it means Labour will lose many seats and stay in power.